Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread

[SoccerHQ]

Fonseca did fairly well at Roma, who are pinballing about in their usual style. Was unlucky to lose Zaniolo to a long-termer (as Mou has been to lose Spinazzola), and 5th-7th is about their level given the competition. Nowhere near the squad Lampard had at Chelsea, for instance.

Perhaps but Lampard took over in the year they had the transfer ban and was responsible for blooding all the youngster that Tuchel has benefitted from. It only went pear-shaped when he had money

He had no choice but to bring in the youngsters, and while he didn't do badly I don't think it's at all fair to say Tuchel is just benefitting off his work - he took the exact squad that Lampard was flailing around with and won the Champions League. Also yes, they had the transfer ban, but their squad wasn't exactly like ours when we got promoted was it? It was still overstuffed with world class players. Fonseca, in my opinion, would have done better than Lampard.

I do think Lampard will be seriously considered by our board if/when vacancy arises. They'll just look at him promoting Tammy, Mount, Tomori and Reece James into the squad when say Sarri before him wasn't interested at all and think he could do that for the 3-4 we've got bubbling under the surface now.

And say someone like Pulisic becomes available on loan....would he rather come and play for Dean Smith or Frank Lampard if we were seriously interested?

Those are things I think Purslow would consider, not that Lampard is anywhere near my first choice though given he has similar flaws to DS, just higher profile.

[ozzjim]

I would prefer Terry to Lampard Soccer. The players openly said he had no tactical plan from week to week.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Slightly concerning is how Jorge Mendes seems to be the go-to for Christian Purslow. There were very strong rumours last season we were about to bring in Lage, the deal only collapsing at the last minute and now Fonseca, another from the Gestifute stable. Must say and although it's early doors, Lage seems to have got the Dingles back on track taking 13 out of a possible 15 points in their last 5 games.

I still hate mid-season appointments.

[Gareth]

By the same token though Gareth, if Dean Smith, with his record at Villa, was one of the names in the hat that would not inspire me either.

Certainly the recent record 100% but it’s whether it’s better devil you know or not.  If lose on Friday there can be no complaints if owners decide to roll the dice that’s for sure

[SoccerHQ]

I would prefer Terry to Lampard Soccer. The players openly said he had no tactical plan from week to week.

Terry would be a bigger gamble imo.

When he left I just assumed he'd rock up at a Swansea or Forest a few months later. Hasn't happened so how desperate is he really to be a manager?

At least when we got say Gregory back 20 years old he'd had about 18 months at Wycombe so really wouldn't see the logic of giving him his first managerial job. Surely he'd have stayed on if he sensed a change would happen mid season anyway and then him and Shakespeare would've got a couple of games as caretakers to stake their claim.

Too much of a gamble for me. Perhaps in a few years if he's managed in the championship.

[SoccerHQ]

Slightly concerning is how Jorge Mendes seems to be the go-to for Christian Purslow. There were very strong rumours last season we were about to bring in Lage, the deal only collapsing at the last minute and now Fonseca, another from the Gestifute stable. Must say and although it's early doors, Lage seems to have got the Dingles back on track taking 13 out of a possible 15 points in their last 5 games.

I still hate mid-season appointments.

Well remembered. I'd have been dead against Lage tbh given I was watching Benfica regularly in 19/20 but he's doing a very good job at Wolves isn't he? Playing miles better football than Nuno (ironically one of the worst performances for them was probably v us).

It's tricky with managers. They'll be reservations about whoever we appoint but just need someone who's methods fit in well with the squad in terms of formation and style.

Sometimes it's just about timing aswell. Don't really want to be getting a new one in when we play all of Man. City, Leicester and Liverpool in a row and that's the start of next month.

[OCD]

Apparently Fonseca does like to play with a back 3. Sorry CD. In fact, I don't like it either...maybe for the odd game for tactical reasons but not as a first choice regular selection.

[paul_e]

Apparently Fonseca does like to play with a back 3. Sorry CD. In fact, I don't like it either...maybe for the odd game for tactical reasons but not as a first choice regular selection.

I have less of an issue with a manager who sets their stall on it and signs players to fit the system. Where it really pisses me off is where managers 'give it a go' with a squad that doesn't suit it. I'm still not a fan because I think you're specifically setting yoursefl up to be weak against 433 and 4231 which are the 2 most common systems in the game right now.

 352 and all the derivatives of it exists to outnumber teams playing 442 in the central positions, specifically in midfield. As soon as you lose that dominance it becomes a lot less effective for almost all teams because there are very few genuinely good wingbacks around.

[Risso]

Apparently Fonseca does like to play with a back 3. Sorry CD. In fact, I don't like it either...maybe for the odd game for tactical reasons but not as a first choice regular selection.

I have less of an issue with a manager who sets their stall on it and signs players to fit the system. Where it really pisses me off is where managers 'give it a go' with a squad that doesn't suit it. I'm still not a fan because I think you're specifically setting yoursefl up to be weak against 433 and 4231 which are the 2 most common systems in the game right now.

 352 and all the derivatives of it exists to outnumber teams playing 442 in the central positions, specifically in midfield. As soon as you lose that dominance it becomes a lot less effective for almost all teams because there are very few genuinely good wingbacks around.

Agreed Paul. Teams like Chelsea can get away with it when their team is geared towards it and their players are genuinely excellent in just about every position. If we had two other central defenders as good as Konsa and someone like Chilwell at left wing back, we’d look much more effective than we do with defenders like Mings and Hause/Tuanzebe who couldn’t pass their way out of a paper bag, and a traditional left back like Targett.

[cdbearsfan]

Just NO.

[cdbearsfan]

Mainly four at the back according to this....

http://outsideoftheboot.com/2020/05/28/tactical-philosophy-paulo-fonseca/

[Monty]

Managers and three at the back Is like politicians and weed - everyone admits to having tried it these days.

[PaulWinch again]

3 at back is fine if you have the right players - we don’t. It’s as simple as that.

[cdbearsfan]

Another impressive win for Erik ten Hag. Trying to put himself in the shop window. Hopefully not the same one that we had the FA Cup nicked from.

[Risso]

Another impressive win for Erik ten Hag. Trying to put himself in the shop window. Hopefully not the same one that we had the FA Cup nicked from.

He can bring Haller back to the Prem with him. 14 goals in 15 games.