Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread

[Didier Five]

I wonder why Newcastle are leaning towards Howe over Fonseca.

Howe has experience of the Championship 

[Allan C]

It's a big risk for both, but who else would want to walk into a relegation scrap with that squad? Hodgson, maybe. Allardyce, certainly but...that wouldn't work.

Yeah, that's my line of thought too. They're not going to attract really top quality managers in the position they're in. Eddie Howe seems a reasonable appointment to me, from their point of view.

Maybe he’s their Dean Smith. Recover them from the mess left by Bruce, get them to a point where the fans think he can take them no further and want another experienced top name in there. That’ll take the rest of this season and all of next then he’ll be gone

[ozzjim]

I wonder why Newcastle are leaning towards Howe over Fonseca.

From what I saw reported Fonseca and Howe have very detailed plans of what they would do, but Fonseca wanted his own back room people and Newcastle were insistent on Jones staying.

[john e]

I wonder why Newcastle are leaning towards Howe over Fonseca.

Apparently Fonseca told Newcastle He’d heard the greatest football club in the world might be interested in him and there was no way he was listening to any other offers while there might be a chance of that once-in-a-lifetime Opportunity

[algy]

It's a big risk for both, but who else would want to walk into a relegation scrap with that squad? Hodgson, maybe. Allardyce, certainly but...that wouldn't work.

Yeah, that's my line of thought too. They're not going to attract really top quality managers in the position they're in. Eddie Howe seems a reasonable appointment to me, from their point of view.

Maybe he’s their Dean Smith. Recover them from the mess left by Bruce, get them to a point where the fans think he can take them no further and want another experienced top name in there. That’ll take the rest of this season and all of next then he’ll be gone

Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking! Not a bad gig for either party if he pulls it off - Howe will get plenty of other offers on the back of it, and Newcastle will be in a better position to emulate Manc City, which I assume is their plan.

[tomd2103]

I know this should go in other football but couldn't resist.  Imagine being a Newcastle fan and sacking Steve Bruce, only to appoint Eddie Howe.  Blimey, the absolute height of ambition eh?

Clearly didn't have a replacement in place when they sacked Bruce or their preferred target turned them down.  Does act as somewhat of a warning to us if the decision is to be made about Dean Smith.

[Hookeysmith]

Im just shocked still that it is assumed a done deal that Smith is to be sacked

Im obviously not happy at present and he has made some decisions that have concerned me but far too early to sack him for me

[Risso]

Im just shocked still that it is assumed a done deal that Smith is to be sacked

Im obviously not happy at present and he has made some decisions that have concerned me but far too early to sack him for me

He's been averaging a tiny bit over a point a game for this entire calendar year. We now look like being sucked into another morale-sapping relegation battle. The football is shit, and the defending even worse. Bin him now, give the new man a couple of months to evaluate things before the January window, and then back him as much as possible. Smith is a dead man walking.

[VinnieChase84]

Think the manner of the performance tonight will be the making or breaking of the situation imo

No doubt he's under big pressure and they ARE concerned at this season/beyond.

The only added issue is they dont want to make a decision now to bring someone in for the sake of it. The new man WILL have to be the one they are convinced can deliver us europe etc (so a stop gap option wont happen)

If they cant get (i dont know who) they want then that could be a huge factor for DS

[andyh]

Vinnie, are you saying you think they might get rid, but will take their time appointing the right replacement?
Sounds like a plan to me.

[VinnieChase84]

Vinnie, are you saying you think they might get rid, but will take their time appointing the right replacement?
Sounds like a plan to me.

They are NOT happy with how things are going and getting rid is 100% something they have discussed/thought about.
I know of a few managers who have been spoken to but no idea where its all at.

The only thing ive taken away from what ive been told is that unless they can replace Dean with the man they believe delivers our goals and pushes us on then it may drag a bit (eg get to summer and do it then is main man available then)

[sickbeggar]

Always rated Howe but I wouldn't bet on him keeping them up or anyone else for that matter. They're gonna have to spend big in January, and pay big wages to persuade quality players to go there. I really can't see them getting them because if you're a player its too big a risk

[Hookeysmith]

Vinnie, are you saying you think they might get rid, but will take their time appointing the right replacement?
Sounds like a plan to me.

They are NOT happy with how things are going and getting rid is 100% something they have discussed/thought about.
I know of a few managers who have been spoken to but no idea where its all at.

The only thing ive taken away from what ive been told is that unless they can replace Dean with the man they believe delivers our goals and pushes us on then it may drag a bit (eg get to summer and do it then is main man available then)

I'm comforted that our owners are switched on enough to be considering the change but i am alarmed at there not being a single candidate mentioned that i think "yep thats the right guy"  either now or even in the summer*

*to be fair i am no expert on the world wide game so there may be a brilliant candidate in the Malaysian league i would not know about

[SoccerHQ]

Vinnie, are you saying you think they might get rid, but will take their time appointing the right replacement?
Sounds like a plan to me.

They are NOT happy with how things are going and getting rid is 100% something they have discussed/thought about.
I know of a few managers who have been spoken to but no idea where its all at.

The only thing ive taken away from what ive been told is that unless they can replace Dean with the man they believe delivers our goals and pushes us on then it may drag a bit (eg get to summer and do it then is main man available then)

Interesting. I assume "main man" is currently employed somewhere else if the summer bit is true.

Just worries me we'll just let this season drift needlessly just waiting for us to hit a big of form. Hopefully things turn tonight but you could easily see us failing to win any of our next 3 and then we hit Man. City, Leicester and Liverpool.

Hope it dosen't come to it but that could potentially be 0 wins in 10 games and us in the bottom 3 as Newcastle have some winnable games in December.

[sickbeggar]

Lets be honest, we can't come up with a nailed on realistic candidate so I can understand the club wavering over the selection of a "may do better than Smith" candidate. Plenty in the "maybe would come if he was promised 250m in transfers and 6m a year in salary" range but our we in that market?