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Offline cdbearsfan

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Re: Villa Players on International Duty - Covid impacts
« Reply #150 on: September 06, 2021, 10:30:21 AM »
Isn't our next game away and they wont be resting players for a Euro cup final? A completely different Umboto Gorge.

Which players did they rest? They hadn't qualified for this season's competition when they came to Villa Park, they were full strength as far as I can recall.

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Re: Villa Players on International Duty - Covid impacts
« Reply #151 on: September 06, 2021, 10:33:54 AM »
Isn't our next game away and they wont be resting players for a Euro cup final? A completely different Umboto Gorge.

Which players did they rest? They hadn't qualified for this season's competition when they came to Villa Park, they were full strength as far as I can recall.

Yep, it was pretty much their best XI, 2-3 players on the bench that were rotation options but none that you'd say were clearly being rested.

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Re: Villa Players on International Duty - Covid impacts
« Reply #152 on: September 06, 2021, 11:19:04 AM »
I don't know what's happened here but I blame Dean Smith. None of Bielsa's players were involved.

These are the kind of situations that make me realise how soft smith is. Scared to upset a player so you let them do as they please. Klopp, ferguson, tuchel wouldnt stand for this shit

So your Smith, what exactly would you suggest he have done to prevent this?

What the other managers did in the premier league. Dont allow them to go

Fallacy. Only Spurs and Villa had Argentina first XI players called up so he did the same as the other managers. Brazil didn’t call up UK based PL players.

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Re: Villa Players on International Duty - Covid impacts
« Reply #153 on: September 06, 2021, 11:38:25 AM »
You would have thought Argentina will have realised there may be trouble ahead when Brazil didn't call up any of their UK based players.

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Re: Villa Players on International Duty - Covid impacts
« Reply #154 on: September 06, 2021, 11:42:12 AM »
Although they could have done so, as the rules don't apply to Brazilian nationals, hence Willian was allowed to start training at his new club within a couple of days of arriving from Arsenal.

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Re: Villa Players on International Duty - Covid impacts
« Reply #155 on: September 06, 2021, 11:55:02 AM »
I don't know what's happened here but I blame Dean Smith. None of Bielsa's players were involved.

These are the kind of situations that make me realise how soft smith is. Scared to upset a player so you let them do as they please. Klopp, ferguson, tuchel wouldnt stand for this shit

So your Smith, what exactly would you suggest he have done to prevent this?

What the other managers did in the premier league. Dont allow them to go

Fallacy. Only Spurs and Villa had Argentina first XI players called up so he did the same as the other managers. Brazil didn’t call up UK based PL players.

Other nations did though. Almiron didn't go. Nor did Nakamba for Villa, so it does seem a bit odd.

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Re: Villa Players on International Duty - Covid impacts
« Reply #156 on: September 06, 2021, 11:56:12 AM »
You clearly have to be a master of subterfuge to get past Brazilian border staff.

I've been to Brazil. They'll let anyone in.

I love you providing the evidence so quickly after the point you made.

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Re: Villa Players on International Duty - Covid impacts
« Reply #157 on: September 06, 2021, 11:57:15 AM »
I don't know what's happened here but I blame Dean Smith. None of Bielsa's players were involved.

These are the kind of situations that make me realise how soft smith is. Scared to upset a player so you let them do as they please. Klopp, ferguson, tuchel wouldnt stand for this shit

So your Smith, what exactly would you suggest he have done to prevent this?

What the other managers did in the premier league. Dont allow them to go

Fallacy. Only Spurs and Villa had Argentina first XI players called up so he did the same as the other managers. Brazil didn’t call up UK based PL players.

Other nations did though. Almiron didn't go. Nor did Nakamba for Villa, so it does seem a bit odd.

That's player by player though, Nakamba agreed to not go when he was asked, emi and emi didn't by all accounts (and I can understand why they made the choice they did).

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Re: Villa Players on International Duty - Covid impacts
« Reply #158 on: September 06, 2021, 12:08:13 PM »
I wonder whether the club spoke with their agents, asking them to act as the 'responsible person in the room' for the players?

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Re: Villa Players on International Duty - Covid impacts
« Reply #159 on: September 06, 2021, 01:42:30 PM »
It’s unbelievable that the Smith haters are at it yet again …… I presume it was his fault there were no steak pies against Brentford
People need to get off the guys back and look at all the positive he had done for the club
Villa could not refuse to release the players and FIFA could ban players if they or the club refused them travel

I was joking when I blamed Dean Smith. It might not have been funny, but it was obvious.

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Re: Villa Players on International Duty - Covid impacts
« Reply #160 on: September 06, 2021, 01:56:33 PM »
It’s unbelievable that the Smith haters are at it yet again …… I presume it was his fault there were no steak pies against Brentford
People need to get off the guys back and look at all the positive he had done for the club
Villa could not refuse to release the players and FIFA could ban players if they or the club refused them travel

I was joking when I blamed Dean Smith. It might not have been funny, but it was obvious.

Obviously not funny?

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Re: Villa Players on International Duty - Covid impacts
« Reply #161 on: September 06, 2021, 01:57:46 PM »
A bit.

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Re: Villa Players on International Duty - Covid impacts
« Reply #162 on: September 06, 2021, 02:03:58 PM »
Does anybody know actually what is happening with the Emis and where we're now expecting them back?

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Re: Villa Players on International Duty - Covid impacts
« Reply #163 on: September 06, 2021, 02:10:48 PM »
Does anybody know actually what is happening with the Emis and where we're now expecting them back?

According to AVFC Brasil they're on the way back to Europe. https://twitter.com/AstonVillabrfc/status/1434851004017750016

Original source is an Argentinian paper. https://twitter.com/DiarioOle/status/1434853639844253703

They're not playing against Bolivia and and returning via Madrid.

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Re: Villa Players on International Duty - Covid impacts
« Reply #164 on: September 06, 2021, 02:17:20 PM »
Excellent, so that's the best outcome we could have hoped for?  Other than maybe Buendia getting some gametime.

 


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