Aston Villa vs Brentford Post-Match Thread

[Toronto Villa]

Fair enough. My problem is less today in isolation, but the fact that it's looked the same for years when there's no Jack Grealish. Last week's midfield have all had plenty of time to learn the style together, but there wasn't evidence of it. I hope today is an aberration going forward - the problem is, for now, that it's not one if you look back.

On Conor and Marvelous, the point was more that they've spent more time playing together and with the coach, so would presumably take some displacing if there were reservations about Young or Chuck knowing their roles.

Dean Smith’s ability (or inability) to find a winning formula without Grealish will either make him or break him. There won’t be an in between. This club has come a long way under him in a short space of time, and for that we should be grateful. But for where we want to go coming in mid table or worse only has on consequence for the manager. But right now for me, he gets a pass simply because so many players are out.

Because of the one that never was one of us through all his bullshit Smith has had to fire fight at the start of the season when you look at the absent players. Cut him some slack for the time being.

Isn’t that what I’ve said? And as has been pointed out many times, whenever Jack didn’t play we looked for the most part awful. So that’s his challenge once everyone is back and settled is to make us look a side that has cost a lot of money to assemble. And he won’t have a lot of time to do it. That’s the job.

[Villafirst]

So many negative comments. We had so many changes due to 8 players being unavailable through injury / illness. The team was much weaker than the one that faced Newcastle last week. Even one of the stars of last week (Ramsey) was forced out through Covid isolation.

[clash city rocker]

Fair enough. My problem is less today in isolation, but the fact that it's looked the same for years when there's no Jack Grealish. Last week's midfield have all had plenty of time to learn the style together, but there wasn't evidence of it. I hope today is an aberration going forward - the problem is, for now, that it's not one if you look back.

On Conor and Marvelous, the point was more that they've spent more time playing together and with the coach, so would presumably take some displacing if there were reservations about Young or Chuck knowing their roles.

Dean Smith’s ability (or inability) to find a winning formula without Grealish will either make him or break him. There won’t be an in between. This club has come a long way under him in a short space of time, and for that we should be grateful. But for where we want to go coming in mid table or worse only has on consequence for the manager. But right now for me, he gets a pass simply because so many players are out.

Because of the one that never was one of us through all his bullshit Smith has had to fire fight at the start of the season when you look at the absent players. Cut him some slack for the time being.

Isn’t that what I’ve said? And as has been pointed out many times, whenever Jack didn’t play we looked for the most part awful. So that’s his challenge once everyone is back and settled is to make us look a side that has cost a lot of money to assemble. And he won’t have a lot of time to do it. That’s the job.

Not disagreeing Toronto.  We know football is results driven. 3 games in and it's not that bad. Imagine being an arse now. We have come a long way in a short space of time relatively speaking and I am enjoying it. As a villa fan you should know better than anyone that it's the hope that kills you. As all on here...VTID

[VILLA MOLE]

Fair enough. My problem is less today in isolation, but the fact that it's looked the same for years when there's no Jack Grealish. Last week's midfield have all had plenty of time to learn the style together, but there wasn't evidence of it. I hope today is an aberration going forward - the problem is, for now, that it's not one if you look back.

On Conor and Marvelous, the point was more that they've spent more time playing together and with the coach, so would presumably take some displacing if there were reservations about Young or Chuck knowing their roles.

Dean Smith’s ability (or inability) to find a winning formula without Grealish will either make him or break him. There won’t be an in between. This club has come a long way under him in a short space of time, and for that we should be grateful. But for where we want to go coming in mid table or worse only has on consequence for the manager. But right now for me, he gets a pass simply because so many players are out.

Because of the one that never was one of us through all his bullshit Smith has had to fire fight at the start of the season when you look at the absent players. Cut him some slack for the time being.

Isn’t that what I’ve said? And as has been pointed out many times, whenever Jack didn’t play we looked for the most part awful. So that’s his challenge once everyone is back and settled is to make us look a side that has cost a lot of money to assemble. And he won’t have a lot of time to do it. That’s the job.

Not disagreeing Toronto.  We know football is results driven. 3 games in and it's not that bad. Imagine being an arse now. We have come a long way in a short space of time relatively speaking and I am enjoying it. As a villa fan you should know better than anyone that it's the hope that kills you. As all on here...VTID

In fairness they have just played Man City and Chelsea ,  but I guess it is the manner of their defeats 

[Drummond]

Absolutely Terrible performance and I worry what will happen when we come across the better teams. Why on earth didn't Dean bring Watkins on earlier? Looked much better when he came on the pitch

Needed a Beer after that first half and was presented with a CAN then poured in a plastic cup , no wonder the queue was so long with it taking a minute to pour the can into a PLASTIC cup, so much for taking care of the environment .

They should have used a paper cup.

Watkins wasn't fit enough to play longer, he's been injured.

[Chico Hamilton III]

Brentford were the most biased fans I can remember, claiming for absolutely everything. You can tell they're new to attending matches. No doubt they'll forget about football again when they're back playing the likes of Barnsley and Small Heath every week.

Yeah proper rent a crowd mob. Usually bring 500 but all crawled out the woodwork, the plastic twats.

Our train back to Euston was full of Brentford and they were good natured, knowledgeable and friendly. A step up from the stereotypical plastic Chelsea boorish wannabes, Hertfordshire Spurs arseholes or pretend cockney, Essex West Ham fans who usually travel up from London. And after so many failed attempts and having their squad plundered by the big clubs, I say fair play to them

[Ads]

I say fuck them and the other 91 that ain't Villa.

[clash city rocker]

I never realised until yesterday that chico Hamilton was an  american jazz drummer. Always thought he was just a bloke that played for us

[Rory]

I say fuck them and the other 91 that ain't Villa.

Agreed.

[Richard E]

His prerogative, obviously, but Toney didn’t take the knee before kick off.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

His prerogative, obviously, but Toney didn’t take the knee before kick off.

Another attention grabbing attempt probably.

[KevinGage]

His prerogative, obviously, but Toney didn’t take the knee before kick off.

What was with the Zulu nonsense n'all.

There's no  obvious connection to the shower o'shite down the road.

Maybe Rico Henry or one of the brains trust there suggested it.

[The Edge]

His prerogative, obviously, but Toney didn’t take the knee before kick off.

What was with the Zulu nonsense n'all.

There's no  obvious connection to the shower o'shite down the road.

Maybe Rico Henry or one of the brains trust there suggested it.

Apparently his agent is a nose so he did it for the bantz. Just their usual obsession with us. I've only seen the highlights on MOTD so can anyone tell me why they were denied a goal when their player nicked the ball off Emi M? He had clearly released the ball so to my understanding he had every right to go for the ball. Or am I missing something? 

[john e]

In fairness to Toney he  probably didn't even realise the connotations of the Zulu sign like many of the Villa fans on the day
My daughter thought he was sending love to someone

if he did and thought tell you what I'll troll the Holte end with a sign of the local rivals hooligan firm then he deserves a ban for life

But I don't think he did a bit like Gasciogns flute playing, no idea

[ChicagoLion]

So how on earth did he come up with it if he didn’t know what it meant?
Of course he knew, his agent told him.