Aston Villa vs Brentford Post-Match Thread

[Flin5tone]

Absolutely Terrible performance and I worry what will happen when we come across the better teams. Why on earth didn't Dean bring Watkins on earlier? Looked much better when he came on the pitch

Needed a Beer after that first half and was presented with a CAN then poured in a plastic cup , no wonder the queue was so long with it taking a minute to pour the can into a PLASTIC cup, so much for taking care of the environment .

[CT]

Absolutely Terrible performance and I worry what will happen when we come across the better teams. Why on earth didn't Dean bring Watkins on earlier? Looked much better when he came on the pitch

Needed a Beer after that first half and was presented with a CAN then poured in a plastic cup , no wonder the queue was so long with it taking a minute to pour the can into a PLASTIC cup, so much for taking care of the environment .

Email the club.

[Exeter 77]

Scored the biggest goal in his career and celebrated by running up to the biggest crowd packed stand he's ever played in front of and made a Z sign with his hands and generally gave it the big one. Just a no mark.

And he's interviewed saying he knew exactly what he was doing as his agent is a Blues fan. What a massive bellend.

I didn't  notice it yesterday but in days gone by that would have been classed as incitement. I bet he wouldn't be as keen to make a crossed arm hammers gesture at Millwall.

[CT]

Scored the biggest goal in his career and celebrated by running up to the biggest crowd packed stand he's ever played in front of and made a Z sign with his hands and generally gave it the big one. Just a no mark.

And he's interviewed saying he knew exactly what he was doing as his agent is a Blues fan. What a massive bellend.

I didn't  notice it yesterday but in days gone by that would have been classed as incitement. I bet he wouldn't be as keen to make a crossed arm hammers gesture at Millwall.

…and doing it because his agent supports a team he couldn’t even pronounce. What a weapon.

[wince]

Scored the biggest goal in his career and celebrated by running up to the biggest crowd packed stand he's ever played in front of and made a Z sign with his hands and generally gave it the big one. Just a no mark.

And he's interviewed saying he knew exactly what he was doing as his agent is a Blues fan. What a massive bellend.

I didn't  notice it yesterday but in days gone by that would have been classed as incitement. I bet he wouldn't be as keen to make a crossed arm hammers gesture at Millwall.

…and doing it because his agent supports a team he couldn’t even pronounce. What a weapon.

A total fuckknuckle. Bloser agent will probably get a commemorative teatowel from our unwashed neighbours. As for the game, We ain’t getting in Europe anytime soon given performance past 3 games. Yes, greasball has gone but to have no real identity or pattern of play? This feels like the first year in championship and I’m sick of waiting for players to gel, rebuilding etc. But international break at least hasn’t stopped our momentum and hopefully injured players will be back.

[Ads]

Brentford were the most biased fans I can remember, claiming for absolutely everything. You can tell they're new to attending matches. No doubt they'll forget about football again when they're back playing the likes of Barnsley and Small Heath every week.

Yeah proper rent a crowd mob. Usually bring 500 but all crawled out the woodwork, the plastic twats.

[Mister E]

Weird game, in the circumstances of the enforced late changes.
Positives: Axel's defending and excellent passing out of defence was a pleasant surprise.
Buendia's continuing - if unsurprising - improvement in play and influence.
The generally-solid performance from the 2 fullbacks.
Ashley Young's cool / calm display.
Ing's dogged persistence.
Some worries: Konsa's injury (sustained from a corner that should not have been given).
Lack of forward momentum (AEG threatened in fits and starts and is not a long-term starter).
Luiz's slow ball-distribution.
Smith's game-management.

We weren't as bad as some make out given the availability of players and will build our performances and results steadily.

[West Derby Villan]

Considering the selection problems and last minute illness/injuries, a draw was probably the correct result. I think that once everyone is fit and available it will be easier to judge how our season will progress. After saying all that I would still like a new experienced DM before the transfer window closes

[RamboandBruno]

Scored the biggest goal in his career and celebrated by running up to the biggest crowd packed stand he's ever played in front of and made a Z sign with his hands and generally gave it the big one. Just a no mark.

And he's interviewed saying he knew exactly what he was doing as his agent is a Blues fan. What a massive bellend.

I didn't  notice it yesterday but in days gone by that would have been classed as incitement. I bet he wouldn't be as keen to make a crossed arm hammers gesture at Millwall.

There was a bloke going nuts about it by me in the Holte, whereas otherwise it was general bemusement, but to be fair I couldn’t tell what he was doing at first. Part of me doesn’t give a shit, but a different time and that causes a problem with elements of the crowd. He probably doesn’t have any real idea of the violence between some of our supporters and their zulus in the past, if he does and still did that, he’s an absolute twat.

[TonyD]

When I saw the lineup before the match I was worried, but I thought they did ok.

And just what have we done to deserve so many absences/injuries?

Mings
McGinn
Sanson
Traore
Bailey
Watkins (he'd have started if fully fit)
Davies

When we're fully fit I think we'll do well.

When they come back we will kick ass.

I forgot Ramsey too.

And Trezeguet.

He is where near good enough at this level.  Not even as a squad player.   

[Zouch Villa]

I appreciate that we have a lot of first team players missing, but as others have said there just didn’t seem to be a clear plan of how to breakdown Brentford.  We allowed them to dictate the pace of the game, and to their credit (albeit cynically) they were very effective at disrupting and riling our players.

I do worry how that Villa team would stand up against better opposition, so just hope we get some players back plus some absolutely needed additions for our next game.  If not, and we continue in this manner, I can’t see Smith surviving beyond Christmas.

[Sexual Ealing]

It looked to me like we tried to play over their press. That might have worked better if we had Watkins (or even Davis) up front. Danny Ings has many qualities, but he's slower than my disabled mum.

[ASHTONVILLA]

Considering the late absences from the team, and the ramshackle team selection resulting from it I think we played alright. Put Mings, Ramsey, McGinn and Watkins in from the start and we would have won comfortably.

Positives:

 Watkins is back, and will be fit when the international break is over. He made a big difference when he came on, and linked up well with Ings.

Target was back to something like last seasons form, and will be properly match fit after the break.

Buendia is getting better every game, and starting to develop chemistry with his team mates.

Tuanzebe looked a better player than in his last spell, and played well. With hie and Hause as backups we will cope with any injuries in defence pretty well this season.

Luiz and Cash both starting to improve in form and fitness.

Decent debut from young Carney, and the experience gained will have done him good.

Negatives - Young is not a central midfield player. Injury to Konsa.

We are 11th, same as we finished last season, but having had a dreadful pre season and a load of injuries to contend with. When Bailey, Traore, Watkins to come into the team and possibly another signing to come we will definitely improve. If those lot all click then it is possible we will finish higher than last season.

[Toronto Villa]

Fair enough. My problem is less today in isolation, but the fact that it's looked the same for years when there's no Jack Grealish. Last week's midfield have all had plenty of time to learn the style together, but there wasn't evidence of it. I hope today is an aberration going forward - the problem is, for now, that it's not one if you look back.

On Conor and Marvelous, the point was more that they've spent more time playing together and with the coach, so would presumably take some displacing if there were reservations about Young or Chuck knowing their roles.

Dean Smith’s ability (or inability) to find a winning formula without Grealish will either make him or break him. There won’t be an in between. This club has come a long way under him in a short space of time, and for that we should be grateful. But for where we want to go coming in mid table or worse only has on consequence for the manager. But right now for me, he gets a pass simply because so many players are out.

[clash city rocker]

Fair enough. My problem is less today in isolation, but the fact that it's looked the same for years when there's no Jack Grealish. Last week's midfield have all had plenty of time to learn the style together, but there wasn't evidence of it. I hope today is an aberration going forward - the problem is, for now, that it's not one if you look back.

On Conor and Marvelous, the point was more that they've spent more time playing together and with the coach, so would presumably take some displacing if there were reservations about Young or Chuck knowing their roles.

Dean Smith’s ability (or inability) to find a winning formula without Grealish will either make him or break him. There won’t be an in between. This club has come a long way under him in a short space of time, and for that we should be grateful. But for where we want to go coming in mid table or worse only has on consequence for the manager. But right now for me, he gets a pass simply because so many players are out.

Because of the one that never was one of us through all his bullshit Smith has had to fire fight at the start of the season when you look at the absent players. Cut him some slack for the time being.