Quote from: Risso on September 28, 2021, 09:28:27 AMQuote from: chrisw1 on September 28, 2021, 09:16:27 AMQuote from: Dante Lavelli on September 27, 2021, 09:29:18 PMA small observation but before Smith and during the preceding 5-10 years appointing a set piece coach such as MacPhee would’ve made minimal difference. Marginal gains such as this can only really work once the team already has a structure and organised base to build from.I'm not sure about that. I would have thought improving set pieces (both attacking and defending) with a potenial 5-10 goal swing in a season would improve any team, whatever lever they're playing at. I'm not sure either. Our set pieces have been absolutely dire for years. Corners failing to beat the first man more often than not, free kicks into the stratosphere, no movement at throw ins etc. McPhee hasn't fine tuned these, he's gone straight past making them competent and actually made us a threat and dangerous.Okay, I may be wrong. My point was more along the lines of ‘paralysis of analysis’ where the day to day clusterfuck of changing systems and individuals means the player’s brains are too full to absorb new (arguably peripheral) information. I think a certain amount of stability give you the time on the training pitch and the players have the head-room to absorb it.
Quote from: chrisw1 on September 28, 2021, 09:16:27 AMQuote from: Dante Lavelli on September 27, 2021, 09:29:18 PMA small observation but before Smith and during the preceding 5-10 years appointing a set piece coach such as MacPhee would’ve made minimal difference. Marginal gains such as this can only really work once the team already has a structure and organised base to build from.I'm not sure about that. I would have thought improving set pieces (both attacking and defending) with a potenial 5-10 goal swing in a season would improve any team, whatever lever they're playing at. I'm not sure either. Our set pieces have been absolutely dire for years. Corners failing to beat the first man more often than not, free kicks into the stratosphere, no movement at throw ins etc. McPhee hasn't fine tuned these, he's gone straight past making them competent and actually made us a threat and dangerous.
Quote from: Dante Lavelli on September 27, 2021, 09:29:18 PMA small observation but before Smith and during the preceding 5-10 years appointing a set piece coach such as MacPhee would’ve made minimal difference. Marginal gains such as this can only really work once the team already has a structure and organised base to build from.I'm not sure about that. I would have thought improving set pieces (both attacking and defending) with a potenial 5-10 goal swing in a season would improve any team, whatever lever they're playing at.
A small observation but before Smith and during the preceding 5-10 years appointing a set piece coach such as MacPhee would’ve made minimal difference. Marginal gains such as this can only really work once the team already has a structure and organised base to build from.
Quote from: clash city rocker on September 28, 2021, 04:59:02 PMQuote from: Drummond on September 28, 2021, 11:31:15 AMQuote from: Smithy on September 28, 2021, 11:14:29 AMQuote from: Drummond on September 28, 2021, 11:03:19 AMTotally impressed by the addition of MacPhee to the team. He's made a big, big difference already.You have to wonder if other teams have noticed? Not the specifics of the set-pieces themselves, but that having a specialist set-piece coach has demonstrably improved us so much in such a short space of time.Should we expect to see other teams employing set-piece specialists in the very near future? Danny Murphy says no.Who the fuck is Danny Murphy ? Is he a national hunt jockey? One of those words rhymes with what he is.
Quote from: Drummond on September 28, 2021, 11:31:15 AMQuote from: Smithy on September 28, 2021, 11:14:29 AMQuote from: Drummond on September 28, 2021, 11:03:19 AMTotally impressed by the addition of MacPhee to the team. He's made a big, big difference already.You have to wonder if other teams have noticed? Not the specifics of the set-pieces themselves, but that having a specialist set-piece coach has demonstrably improved us so much in such a short space of time.Should we expect to see other teams employing set-piece specialists in the very near future? Danny Murphy says no.Who the fuck is Danny Murphy ? Is he a national hunt jockey?
Quote from: Smithy on September 28, 2021, 11:14:29 AMQuote from: Drummond on September 28, 2021, 11:03:19 AMTotally impressed by the addition of MacPhee to the team. He's made a big, big difference already.You have to wonder if other teams have noticed? Not the specifics of the set-pieces themselves, but that having a specialist set-piece coach has demonstrably improved us so much in such a short space of time.Should we expect to see other teams employing set-piece specialists in the very near future? Danny Murphy says no.
Quote from: Drummond on September 28, 2021, 11:03:19 AMTotally impressed by the addition of MacPhee to the team. He's made a big, big difference already.You have to wonder if other teams have noticed? Not the specifics of the set-pieces themselves, but that having a specialist set-piece coach has demonstrably improved us so much in such a short space of time.Should we expect to see other teams employing set-piece specialists in the very near future?
Totally impressed by the addition of MacPhee to the team. He's made a big, big difference already.
Quote from: chrisw1 on September 28, 2021, 09:16:27 AMQuote from: Dante Lavelli on September 27, 2021, 09:29:18 PMA small observation but before Smith and during the preceding 5-10 years appointing a set piece coach such as MacPhee would’ve made minimal difference. Marginal gains such as this can only really work once the team already has a structure and organised base to build from.I'm not sure about that. I would have thought improving set pieces (both attacking and defending) with a potenial 5-10 goal swing in a season would improve any team, whatever lever they're playing at. Houllier could have done with one. We went from conceding one goal from set-pieces in MON’s last season, to 28 in Houllier’s season. With the same defenders we went from the best in the league at defending them to the worst.