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[PeterWithe]

I really hope those numbers aren't correct.

I'm not at all surprised, the going rate for average PL players is eye watering, particularly if they have played for any of the 'big 6' at any time.

[Tuscans]

I don’t know if anyone here looks at Capology, but it seems to be an incredibly detailed financial database of all things football.

https://capology.com/club/aston-villa/salaries//


One thing that stands out for me.
We currently pay out £200k per week for Sancho and £65k per week for Elliot and £70k per week for Malen (50%).
That’s the equivalent to £1.4 MILLION per month on those 3.
Whoever agreed £200k per week for Sancho needs shooting.

Is it any wonder wonder we are screwed on CSR ?

Capology is hit and miss to the extreme.  A few of the "experts" looked at their claims last season after the clubs published accounts came out and said these salaries were exaggerated in cases.

[Tuscans]

For the ones who didn't see the link.

[Brazilian Villain]

Capology is hit and miss to the extreme.

Indeed, some wags refer to it as Capolliegy.

[Ozzjim]

No chance are we going to agree a loan fee of 2m and a bit fee of 23-25m, announce he's gone for an undisclosed fee, and still fork out £280k a month wages on him.

[aj2k77]

Just something of note, if you remove the commercial element of turnover (which admittedly is a key component but also inbuilt for teams with sustained success and CL access) the turnover figures looked like this.

Arsenal £426.5
Liverpool £395.2
Man City £353.5
Man Utd £333.1
Aston Villa £308.2
Chelsea  £289.8
Tottenham £288
Newcastle £217.7
West Ham £171.9

[Stu82]

I don’t know if anyone here looks at Capology, but it seems to be an incredibly detailed financial database of all things football.

https://capology.com/club/aston-villa/salaries//


One thing that stands out for me.
We currently pay out £200k per week for Sancho and £65k per week for Elliot and £70k per week for Malen (50%).
That’s the equivalent to £1.4 MILLION per month on those 3.
Whoever agreed £200k per week for Sancho needs shooting.

Is it any wonder wonder we are screwed on CSR ?

Very interesting, but not sure all figures correct. I seem to remember Lucas Digne and Tyrone Mings resigned on reduced wages to reflect their age, and this shows an increase for Digne.

[Stu82]

It’s showing real progress, and we will have a hit this year with dropping to the Europa league, but commercial will continue to develop to offset some.

Outside of sky six and Newcastle, we are leaving other teams in our wake.

Yes there are bumps in the road but the figures suggest to me we are on our way to be a 5-600m Euro club able to compete at the top level.

[tomd2103]

It’s showing real progress, and we will have a hit this year with dropping to the Europa league, but commercial will continue to develop to offset some.

Outside of sky six and Newcastle, we are leaving other teams in our wake.

Yes there are bumps in the road but the figures suggest to me we are on our way to be a 5-600m Euro club able to compete at the top level.

How though Stu?  That figure was the result of us being in the Champions League and having a full house for pretty much every game.  How does the club generate that additional £100m - £150m on top of that?

[lovejoy]

Larger stadium and more corporate hospitality

[Smithy]

It’s showing real progress, and we will have a hit this year with dropping to the Europa league, but commercial will continue to develop to offset some.

Outside of sky six and Newcastle, we are leaving other teams in our wake.

Yes there are bumps in the road but the figures suggest to me we are on our way to be a 5-600m Euro club able to compete at the top level.

How though Stu?  That figure was the result of us being in the Champions League and having a full house for pretty much every game.  How does the club generate that additional £100m - £150m on top of that?

This isn't a game where "one extra thing" suddenly generates another £100m.  This is a process of incremental gains.  The recent new 'training kit' sponsor being just one example of that.  Each of these smaller extra revenue streams adds up to a bigger number at the end of the year. 

It's no surprise that the clubs with the biggest revenue are the ones that have sponsors coming out of their arses for every conceivable element of the club.  Man Utd have an official wine partner, an official mattress partner, and an official skin care partner, for example - and PLENTY of others.  I'm sure none of these individually is megabucks, but they all add millions to the bottom line every year.  But you don't get businesses like that looking for any possible way to align with you unless you're successful.  And that part is starting now.  Our profile is growing, and sponsors will want to be part of that, some betting on us continuing our journey upwards.

In addition, our EXISTING revenue sources will grow as our profile and success continues to grow.  Sponsors will pay more while we're a team at the top end of the league and in Europe.  Corporates will pay more as a day out at the Villa is seen as more prestigious.  We'll earn more when we're in Europe as our coefficient will be higher.  Again, all these increase revenues, not in huge jumps individually, but in aggregate it can add up to millions.

I'll be honest, if the €450m figure is accurate, then we're already closer than I thought we were.  I genuinely thought it would be another 5 years of regular top 6 finishes and maybe some silverware before we were properly on the tails of the 'big 6', but we're not far away now, and I could see us up at Chelsea's level in another couple of years (assuming current on-pitch trajectories continue).

[aj2k77]

The gap is commercial deals. Shirt sponsorship, partners etc.

[Sexual Ealing]

It’s showing real progress, and we will have a hit this year with dropping to the Europa league, but commercial will continue to develop to offset some.

Outside of sky six and Newcastle, we are leaving other teams in our wake.

Yes there are bumps in the road but the figures suggest to me we are on our way to be a 5-600m Euro club able to compete at the top level.

How though Stu?  That figure was the result of us being in the Champions League and having a full house for pretty much every game.  How does the club generate that additional £100m - £150m on top of that?

Morgan Rogers, is my guess.

[Dante Lavelli]

It's worth noting with Newcastle that they flunked their year in the champions league so their rewards from it were tiny compared to us making the Quarter-finals last year.

Didn't they miss europe completely the season following CL?  We will have Europa money to cushion the blow, but admittedly we have fallen from a higher height (QF stage).

I wonder what commercial deals they struck and whether we can expect similar from our raised profile.

[kippaxvilla2]

Assuming £70m drops off this year but supplemented by say £20m in the Europa?  We are looking at a £328m revenue - 2025-26?  70% of that is £96m.  You can see why we still have an SCR problem if our squad and Manager etc have to be funded with £232m.