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Offline Percy McCarthy

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5432 on: August 21, 2025, 08:32:47 PM »
How is it hard to make an intellectual argument that PSR prevents competition when the "Bakers Dozen" Europe wide is irrelevant, but the cadre of clubs in the Premier League we're directly competing with, have all spent significantly more  is significantly relevant. Disingenuous twaddle.

We've found it hard to sell. So hard in fact we've sold £280m since January 2024 alone.

One thing he does get right is we absolutely do want to replace the elite, with rules suited to our significant spending capacity. They've had it their way since 2011. Time to die, you red bastards and let the new boys take over.


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Re: FFP
« Reply #5433 on: August 21, 2025, 08:36:41 PM »
https://observer.co.uk/news/sport/article/psr-is-not-perfect-but-the-alternative-would-be-ruinous
Thats an interesting article but I dont agree with all of it especially the bit that suggests clubs like Villa and Newcastle are only interested in tilting things in our favour. A complete free for all would indeed be bad for the PL as Newcastles owners have bottomless pockets. I dont know what the solution is but the current status quo cant continue if it means only the "Cartel 6" are able to bring in players at will which is exactly what's transpired so far in this window. I've got nothing against Newcastle specifically but state ownership of football clubs is poison to the game and must be stopped.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5434 on: August 21, 2025, 08:53:17 PM »
He completely ignores that clubs like Man Utd and Barcelona are sitting on a mountain of debt but can spend almost whatever they like anyway, which rather ruins any conclusion he comes to. On top of that the way he glosses over the impact on academies makes it difficult to not think there's a bias involved.

His comment about our spending is highly misleading as well. Yes we had a huge net spend in the first 2 years after promotion, same as pretty much every club that has come up and stayed up for the last decade. Since then our net spend is £90m in 4 1/2 years so roughly £20m a season, which is nothing like the picture he's trying to paint.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5435 on: August 21, 2025, 09:04:14 PM »
This is the same prick that ‘wrote’an absolute arse licking article about the noses last week.  We know where his leanings are. 

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5436 on: August 21, 2025, 09:21:23 PM »
He doesn’t seem to understand that the supposed big six - and yes even Liverpool and Manchester United - spent their way to success to get the revenue they do now. Then they pulled the ladder up. It’s relatively straight forward but he doesn’t get it!

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5437 on: August 21, 2025, 10:34:45 PM »
That's an absolutely terrible article, full of misrepresentation and spuriousness.

If he genuinely believes it when he says "It is very hard to make an intellectually honest argument that PSR has prevented either one of them spending money." he either isn't paying attention or is being intellectually dishonest. Ignores the fact that both Villa and Newcastle had poor and/or tiny squads prior to promotion, hardly surprising then that our sales figures aren't as high as Chelsea. All of the other sports he mentions have some kind of flat budget cap. And we've never given any indication that we want to abolish all financial regulation. Full of shit.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5438 on: August 21, 2025, 11:01:14 PM »
Bottom line, how are other clubs outside the elite, supposed to keep up and be challenge them without spending money? The whole driver of the PL is money. In any other area of the business world, what the PL are doing and UEFA, would be illegal.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5439 on: Today at 12:02:44 AM »
Bottom line, how are other clubs outside the elite, supposed to keep up and be challenge them without spending money? The whole driver of the PL is money. In any other area of the business world, what the PL are doing and UEFA, would be illegal.

Some of the avenues that lead to being able to spend money are open to us.
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Re: FFP
« Reply #5440 on: Today at 01:04:34 AM »
This is the same prick that ‘wrote’an absolute arse licking article about the noses last week.  We know where his leanings are.

If so, I'm glad I haven't bothered reading it.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5441 on: Today at 09:07:05 AM »
There's a very decent read in the Athletic about SCR today. Arsenal and Forest could be in trouble with it next season due to their splurge this summer. How Forest is able to add the wages they have to their existing tight PSR is bewildering, if they've found a back door revenue we need to watch closely.

Chelsea's latest Strasbourg deal is even more blatant SCR games too.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5442 on: Today at 01:52:30 PM »
Isn't what Chelsea are doing with Strasbourg similar to Man City, with Girona?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5443 on: Today at 02:06:29 PM »
There's a very decent read in the Athletic about SCR today. Arsenal and Forest could be in trouble with it next season due to their splurge this summer. How Forest is able to add the wages they have to their existing tight PSR is bewildering, if they've found a back door revenue we need to watch closely.

Chelsea's latest Strasbourg deal is even more blatant SCR games too.

Forest are doing what they did with PSR. They are strengthening their squad despite the rules, taking on the punishment and then selling off pieces smartly to get back within them. They are left overall in a stronger position which is what we did if you look at it. The idea is to find those sellable pieces. Their challenge will be SCR long term as we are finding. And if SCR becomes the prevailing rule across Europe it won't just be them having issues.

 


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