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Re: FFP
« Reply #5070 on: August 03, 2025, 01:19:11 PM »
The game went as many games have over the years, 1 team had the majority of the play but couldn't score and then the other went up the other end and scored with a sucker punch. Except piss poor refereeing meant it got disallowed. If that goal had stood we get a point in that game and, back to the topic, have no worries about the UEFA 70% cap for this coming season.

I reckon we'd also have taken the Chelsea style deferral for a year and used this summer to make 3-4 signings to fill out the squad.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5071 on: August 03, 2025, 02:04:30 PM »
We’ve behind the current financial elite since we missed our chance in 92. And certainly more so once Chelsea and Man City found their pots of gold. We’ve been missing opportunities and playing catch up ever since.

Agree completely.  But it's why I choose Spurs as the comparison.  Man Utd obviously had the Fergie-era success to build their global commmercial behemoth. Liverpool had theirs built before Man Utd, and have been competing at the top end pretty much consistently. Arsenal too had a period of relative on-field success to build that global business.  Chelsea and City both benefitted from billionaires before the rules changed, so they got the head-start that no-one else gets to have these days.  Spurs, meanwhile, hadn't won anything for over a decade, but were relatively successful at staying in the competition for European places, and have built a really strong commercial operation out of that.  That's what we need.  Any commercial operation that RELIES on on-field success, is only ever a couple of bad signings, or an injury crisis, or a poached manager from falling apart.  We need one that delivers season in, season out, even if we don't lift silverware.  We need one that is sustainable, as long as we remain "in the mix" for trophies year-on-year. 

And that only happens when we've done that for a few consecutive years, unfortunately.

Spurs have the added advantage of being in London though.   

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5072 on: August 03, 2025, 03:53:31 PM »
We’ve behind the current financial elite since we missed our chance in 92. And certainly more so once Chelsea and Man City found their pots of gold. We’ve been missing opportunities and playing catch up ever since.

Agree completely.  But it's why I choose Spurs as the comparison.  Man Utd obviously had the Fergie-era success to build their global commmercial behemoth. Liverpool had theirs built before Man Utd, and have been competing at the top end pretty much consistently. Arsenal too had a period of relative on-field success to build that global business.  Chelsea and City both benefitted from billionaires before the rules changed, so they got the head-start that no-one else gets to have these days.  Spurs, meanwhile, hadn't won anything for over a decade, but were relatively successful at staying in the competition for European places, and have built a really strong commercial operation out of that.  That's what we need.  Any commercial operation that RELIES on on-field success, is only ever a couple of bad signings, or an injury crisis, or a poached manager from falling apart.  We need one that delivers season in, season out, even if we don't lift silverware.  We need one that is sustainable, as long as we remain "in the mix" for trophies year-on-year. 

And that only happens when we've done that for a few consecutive years, unfortunately.

Spurs have the added advantage of being in London though.
Yes but it's the utter shit hole of London. It's not like their ground is on Park Lane.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5073 on: August 03, 2025, 03:56:01 PM »
I don't think their players are restricted to living in N17.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5074 on: August 03, 2025, 04:08:05 PM »
One of the game-changing things about Spurs ground and the revenue it generates is the average spend-per-fan since they moved. I think it’s gone from something like £30-odd quid to £130-odd, due mainly to people spending more time (and therefore money) there. That’s something we can address to an extent by giving people better facilities. The Warehouse is a step in the right direction, and will help the club understand demand and perhaps further similar investment.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5075 on: August 03, 2025, 04:33:20 PM »
As has been said before, the attraction of playing for a London club is anonymity.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5076 on: August 03, 2025, 04:35:47 PM »
One of the game-changing things about Spurs ground and the revenue it generates is the average spend-per-fan since they moved. I think it’s gone from something like £30-odd quid to £130-odd, due mainly to people spending more time (and therefore money) there. That’s something we can address to an extent by giving people better facilities. The Warehouse is a step in the right direction, and will help the club understand demand and perhaps further similar investment.

That may take a hit if Son leaves.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5077 on: August 03, 2025, 04:47:10 PM »
They have bought another Korean I think to try to keep that going.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5078 on: August 03, 2025, 05:23:30 PM »
Yes nickname Meatball.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5079 on: August 03, 2025, 06:09:12 PM »
We’ve behind the current financial elite since we missed our chance in 92. And certainly more so once Chelsea and Man City found their pots of gold. We’ve been missing opportunities and playing catch up ever since.

Agree completely.  But it's why I choose Spurs as the comparison.  Man Utd obviously had the Fergie-era success to build their global commmercial behemoth. Liverpool had theirs built before Man Utd, and have been competing at the top end pretty much consistently. Arsenal too had a period of relative on-field success to build that global business.  Chelsea and City both benefitted from billionaires before the rules changed, so they got the head-start that no-one else gets to have these days.  Spurs, meanwhile, hadn't won anything for over a decade, but were relatively successful at staying in the competition for European places, and have built a really strong commercial operation out of that.  That's what we need.  Any commercial operation that RELIES on on-field success, is only ever a couple of bad signings, or an injury crisis, or a poached manager from falling apart.  We need one that delivers season in, season out, even if we don't lift silverware.  We need one that is sustainable, as long as we remain "in the mix" for trophies year-on-year. 

And that only happens when we've done that for a few consecutive years, unfortunately.

Spurs have the added advantage of being in London though.
Yes but it's the utter shit hole of London. It's not like their ground is on Park Lane.

It's Park Lane compared to the area around Villa Park!

Levy gets criticised a lot but he made the decision to rebuild the stadium. Regular European club football since he came in too.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5080 on: August 03, 2025, 06:17:36 PM »
We’ve behind the current financial elite since we missed our chance in 92. And certainly more so once Chelsea and Man City found their pots of gold. We’ve been missing opportunities and playing catch up ever since.

Agree completely.  But it's why I choose Spurs as the comparison.  Man Utd obviously had the Fergie-era success to build their global commmercial behemoth. Liverpool had theirs built before Man Utd, and have been competing at the top end pretty much consistently. Arsenal too had a period of relative on-field success to build that global business.  Chelsea and City both benefitted from billionaires before the rules changed, so they got the head-start that no-one else gets to have these days.  Spurs, meanwhile, hadn't won anything for over a decade, but were relatively successful at staying in the competition for European places, and have built a really strong commercial operation out of that.  That's what we need.  Any commercial operation that RELIES on on-field success, is only ever a couple of bad signings, or an injury crisis, or a poached manager from falling apart.  We need one that delivers season in, season out, even if we don't lift silverware.  We need one that is sustainable, as long as we remain "in the mix" for trophies year-on-year. 

And that only happens when we've done that for a few consecutive years, unfortunately.

Spurs have the added advantage of being in London though.
Yes but it's the utter shit hole of London. It's not like their ground is on Park Lane.

That makes absolutely no difference.

They could probably draw 60,000 tourists to every home match (look how many South Koreans they get because of Son), and it's in London, no matter how rough Tottenham is.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5081 on: August 03, 2025, 07:36:50 PM »
London venues bring more football tourists, higher ticket prices and the opportunity to use the stadium for multi-purpose events. We will never compete entirely with those factors. However, the Manc / Scouse teams have thrived by building a footballing heritage, as well as getting to max their stadia. That has to be our model.
One thing I've periodically banged on about - starting in the mid-late 1990's and Nakata - is the signing of players from Asia: we haven't, others have and it's been a useful way of building international interest in the club.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5082 on: Today at 07:50:38 AM »
London also has a large number of companies that buy expensive corporate hospitality.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5083 on: Today at 08:19:22 AM »
As has been said before, the attraction of playing for a London club is anonymity.
Yep along with Lifestyle choices, some of the best restaurants in the world, transport links , pretty women, accommodation options from Country side, Penthouse to luxury Wet End.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5084 on: Today at 09:05:31 AM »
I’m shower they would like that.

 


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