FFP

[Chris Smith]

What's the deal with all of this now?

From what I can gather:

- We have to stay within the PSR rules (so have to sell someone to keep the income stream going?) [PSR]

- We have to stay within the UEFA rules, which means keeping our wages below a certain amount (which means we need to reduce our wage bill from what it is now?) [UEFA competition rules]

- We can't spend more on players than we bring in through transfer fees [UEFA penalty thing]

Is that right?

No, there are also:

- not allowed to sign left handed players
- no gingers
- not allowed to do Twitter 'reveal' videos for new signings
- only allowed players with initial of first name from first half of the alphabet

You forgot:

- only sign players born in a leap year.

[Brazilian Villain]

No, there are also:

- not allowed to sign left handed players
- no gingers

Wouldn't surprise me, given the discrimination we constantly face.

[Beard82]

No, there are also:

- not allowed to sign left handed players
- no gingers

Wouldn't surprise me, given the discrimination we constantly face.

I feel your pain.  One day our time will come

[eamonn]

What's the deal with all of this now?

From what I can gather:

- We have to stay within the PSR rules (so have to sell someone to keep the income stream going?) [PSR]

- We have to stay within the UEFA rules, which means keeping our wages below a certain amount (which means we need to reduce our wage bill from what it is now?) [UEFA competition rules]

- We can't spend more on players than we bring in through transfer fees [UEFA penalty thing]

Is that right?

No, there are also:

- not allowed to sign left handed players
- no gingers
- not allowed to do Twitter 'reveal' videos for new signings
- only allowed players with initial of first name from first half of the alphabet

You forgot:

- only sign players born in a leap year.

On Leap Day actually, only Feb 29th babbies may apply.

[paul_e]

No, there are also:

- not allowed to sign left handed players
- no gingers

Wouldn't surprise me, given the discrimination we constantly face.

I feel your pain.  One day our time will come

With climate change you'll be waiting a while (in the shade)!!

[LeeB]

No, there are also:

- not allowed to sign left handed players
- no gingers

Wouldn't surprise me, given the discrimination we constantly face.

I feel your pain.  One day our time will come

A cloudy day.

[tomd2103]

What's the deal with all of this now?

From what I can gather:

- We have to stay within the PSR rules (so have to sell someone to keep the income stream going?) [PSR]

- We have to stay within the UEFA rules, which means keeping our wages below a certain amount (which means we need to reduce our wage bill from what it is now?) [UEFA competition rules]

- We can't spend more on players than we bring in through transfer fees [UEFA penalty thing]

Is that right?

It might sound a little extreme, but it does beg the question of whether it is worth entering the Conference League or even the Europa League if you are going to be that badly hamstrung by the financial restrictions.

[Mister E]

C£teh have cut another big sponsorship deal - https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/jul/15/manchester-city-puma-deal-worth-at-least-1bn

[Toronto Villa]

It feels like just as we got a little closer to where we need to be to compete commercially for top players the clubs who were already there simply accelerated away. In terms of deals and the amounts of money they are spending to fortify their positions in the PL.

[jwarry]

C£teh have cut another big sponsorship deal - https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/jul/15/manchester-city-puma-deal-worth-at-least-1bn

I assume Thats £1bn over 10 years so booked at £100m per year? What happens if Puma go bust?

[aj2k77]

Well that's what these rules were designed for.

You spend the max amount of money to make the leap to get a sniff at it and then they fully kick in and you have to cut your cloth differently to the Sky 6 and sell as they continue to buy without limit.

As the rules are, no one will consistently infiltrate the top 4, it will be a cycle of clubs when they get FFP wiggle room who take turns having a 1 year shot.

[Mister E]

C£teh have cut another big sponsorship deal - https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/jul/15/manchester-city-puma-deal-worth-at-least-1bn

I assume Thats £1bn over 10 years so booked at £100m per year? What happens if Puma go bust?

it's over 10 years.
If Puma go bust, another apparel company would presumably cut a deal with Citeh.

[thick_mike]

What's the deal with all of this now?

From what I can gather:

- We have to stay within the PSR rules (so have to sell someone to keep the income stream going?) [PSR]

- We have to stay within the UEFA rules, which means keeping our wages below a certain amount (which means we need to reduce our wage bill from what it is now?) [UEFA competition rules]

- We can't spend more on players than we bring in through transfer fees [UEFA penalty thing]

Is that right?

No, there are also:

- not allowed to sign left handed players
- no gingers
- not allowed to do Twitter 'reveal' videos for new signings
- only allowed players with initial of first name from first half of the alphabet

You forgot:

- only sign players born in a leap year.

On Leap Day actually, only Feb 29th babbies may apply.

Ferran Torres back on then?

[VinnieChase84]

If its any comfort psr isnt this summer/june anywhere near as bad as it was last year! Plus we have a big loss year falling out of calculations this coming season and being replaced by our highest revenue one

Issue for us is we WANT to continue to bring in new and refresh squad. Its in doing that which means we have to sell.

IF we had wanted to then outside of selling a few "squad players/loanees" in june - then we could have kept the entire same team/sold no one and bought no one

Still the state of play as posted back here.
Our dominoes are waiting to fall depending on exits. Bailey, Emi, Maybe JJ

As said, would could keep squad as it was pretty much. If no big sales happen then I’d expect a few loans to plug some gaps etc
Frustrating but it’s where we are

[PaulWinch again]

Squad as is isn’t going to cut it - unless those loans were serious players.