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Offline paul_e

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4905 on: July 04, 2025, 08:51:29 PM »
Both clubs will also limited in what they can spend with players on UEFA’s List A for club competitions having to hold a positive transfer balance, i.e. the cost of players added must not exceed those being removed.

This line in particular can fuck right off, what sort of bullshit is that when you've got twats like Man City spending £300m and counting in this calendar year, fucking ladder pulling shite of the highest order.

Also, if the purpose of this is to reduce the risk of clubs going bust why are fines the solution? If we can afford to ignore the rules and pay a fucking fine then we're in a pretty fucking safe position.

Final moan, if this fine goes on our accounts for next season and increases the chance of a further breach at either UEFA or PL level then they can all get int he fucking bin with their bullshit rules designed to protect the status quo.
« Last Edit: July 04, 2025, 09:06:16 PM by paul_e »

Offline IFWaters

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4906 on: July 04, 2025, 08:56:00 PM »
It feels like we've been pegged over a barrel by the UEFA accountants.

Offline kippaxvilla2

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4907 on: July 04, 2025, 09:53:39 PM »
So any players we sign this summer have to be excluded from the uefa squad?!

Offline DesBremner

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4908 on: July 04, 2025, 10:03:07 PM »
Also does anyone know which financial year the women’s team sale was booked to? I assume it was 24/25 but anyone know for sure or is it a question of wait to see the accounts next March?


As an accountant I would say this a material post balance sheet event and as a contingent liability it should be in the accounts to 30.6.25 and not 2026

Offline Somniloquism

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4909 on: July 04, 2025, 10:06:02 PM »
Not sure. The Guardian believes it is only Chelsea hit with that and not us or Barca.

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Chelsea’s punishment leaves them under pressure to make sales this summer before their return to the Champions League. Uefa’s judgment included the detail that Chelsea would be forbidden from including new players in their squad for Europe next season and in 2026-27 unless they can show they have generated a cost saving with sale of players against acquisitions.

With ours it is just a fine.

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Chelsea and Villa breached Uefa’s football earnings and squad-cost rules (SCR), the latter of which limits clubs operating in European competition to spending 80% of their revenue on player costs. Villa face being fined €5m for every year they breach ­financial rules. A new three-year cycle started in 2024-25.

Villa are confident they can absorb the fine and strengthen Unai Emery’s squad while agreeing to move in line with SCR. Villa and Uefa are understood to have agreed a “glide path” to meet their targets. Villa, who are also confident of avoiding a possible points deduction from the Premier League after moving to sell their women’s team to comply with financial rules, are adamant they do not need to sell key players.

Offline andyh

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4910 on: July 04, 2025, 10:28:09 PM »
Meanwhile, at Manchester C115y…………..

Offline Mellin

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4911 on: July 04, 2025, 11:02:25 PM »
All I care about is...is it deductable?

Offline SaddVillan

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4912 on: July 04, 2025, 11:23:29 PM »
Bed time reading - from the horses mouth.

CFCB First Chamber finalises the assessment of the financial sustainability requirements in the 2024/25 season | UEFA.com

https://share.google/cokWdI1yijHPNFD2g

Offline kippaxvilla2

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4913 on: July 04, 2025, 11:47:52 PM »
That reads to me like we cannot register any new players for the Europa not the exchange talked about earlier.

Offline brontebilly

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4914 on: July 04, 2025, 11:48:05 PM »
It feels like we've been pegged over a barrel by the UEFA accountants.

Maybe a few hard questions for our own accountants too.

Offline kippaxvilla2

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4915 on: July 04, 2025, 11:56:08 PM »
I think it’s safe to say there will be a couple of high profile departures as well.  That could be why that Cash story was floating around this week.  I’ll predict Martinez, Cash and Digne to go.  Cheaper alternatives to replace them.  Included in cheaper would I assume be chevalier.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4916 on: July 04, 2025, 11:58:32 PM »
I think it’s safe to say there will be a couple of high profile departures as well.  That could be why that Cash story was floating around this week.  I’ll predict Martinez, Cash and Digne to go.  Cheaper alternatives to replace them.  Included in cheaper would I assume be chevalier.

I didn’t hear about Cash, was he linked with anyone in particular?

Offline kippaxvilla2

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4917 on: July 05, 2025, 12:04:42 AM »
There was a story saying we were trying to flog him but clubs were being put off by his £100k a week wages.  I’ll add Bailey to the mix.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4918 on: July 05, 2025, 12:16:47 AM »
There was a story saying we were trying to flog him but clubs were being put off by his £100k a week wages.  I’ll add Bailey to the mix.

It would certainly make us think if Cash is on that much, he’s a decent player but it’s a position that I’d hope we’d try and improve. Saying that I thought Garcia was promising but he then never got a look in after a good start, Liverpool mistake aside.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4919 on: July 05, 2025, 06:42:42 AM »
This is the worrying clause from the ruling and fine from UEFA…..

“The two clubs could be prevented from registering new players for Uefa competitions for the forthcoming season unless they have a positive transfer balance by the end of the summer transfer window”

What does that mean ? Does it mean transfer fees, or salaries or a combination of both ?
Does it mean that if we want to sign 2 players for a total of £100m we need to sell players to the same value ?

Bloody hell, this is only our 3rd season back in Europe and we are being completely hamstrung.

The club is 100% debt free but basket cases like Chelsea, Man Utd and Man City get away with anything and everything.
« Last Edit: July 05, 2025, 08:06:27 AM by andyh »

 


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