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Re: FFP
« Reply #4650 on: June 19, 2025, 06:10:43 AM »
This is easily resolved.  Just go back to being bang average every year.

We used to dream of bang average in the 2010s

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4651 on: June 19, 2025, 04:31:24 PM »
Salary Cap is the way.

Unless it is a worldwide one imposed by FIFA then I can't see that working.  If just the Premier League imposed one or even just UEFA, the Saudi league amongst others would just start hoovering up players. 

If the idea behind the financial.restrictions is to stop clubs from bankrupting themselves, then surely there are better checks that could be implemented?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4652 on: June 19, 2025, 04:37:45 PM »
Salary Cap is the way.

Unless it is a worldwide one imposed by FIFA then I can't see that working.  If just the Premier League imposed one or even just UEFA, the Saudi league amongst others would just start hoovering up players. 

If the idea behind the financial.restrictions is to stop clubs from bankrupting themselves, then surely there are better checks that could be implemented?

It is supposed to stop the clubs being loaded with debt like Portsmouth ended up with , Manchester United take a bow

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4653 on: June 19, 2025, 04:39:48 PM »
Salary Cap is the way.

Unless it is a worldwide one imposed by FIFA then I can't see that working.  If just the Premier League imposed one or even just UEFA, the Saudi league amongst others would just start hoovering up players. 

If the idea behind the financial.restrictions is to stop clubs from bankrupting themselves, then surely there are better checks that could be implemented?
Yes if that is the sole objective, you move to a Balance Sheet restriction but that would mean that the richest would win.


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Re: FFP
« Reply #4654 on: June 19, 2025, 04:42:01 PM »
What makes it more farcical is our club is debt free.  No leverage to the owners.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4655 on: June 19, 2025, 04:42:53 PM »
Salary Cap is the way.

Unless it is a worldwide one imposed by FIFA then I can't see that working.  If just the Premier League imposed one or even just UEFA, the Saudi league amongst others would just start hoovering up players. 

If the idea behind the financial.restrictions is to stop clubs from bankrupting themselves, then surely there are better checks that could be implemented?

It is supposed to stop the clubs being loaded with debt like Portsmouth ended up with , Manchester United take a bow
This is the thing. A revenue-based test is flawed without being backed up by a balance sheet test. We don't have a huge debt pile and owners that are happy to put their money in as equity rather than gearing up the business like the glazers did. It needs both to stop the state-owned clubs just running amok and then a global salary cap too would be really effective.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4656 on: June 19, 2025, 04:45:16 PM »
Salary Cap is the way.

Unless it is a worldwide one imposed by FIFA then I can't see that working.  If just the Premier League imposed one or even just UEFA, the Saudi league amongst others would just start hoovering up players. 

If the idea behind the financial.restrictions is to stop clubs from bankrupting themselves, then surely there are better checks that could be implemented?

It is supposed to stop the clubs being loaded with debt like Portsmouth ended up with , Manchester United take a bow
This is the thing. A revenue-based test is flawed without being backed up by a balance sheet test. We don't have a huge debt pile and owners that are happy to put their money in as equity rather than gearing up the business like the glazers did. It needs both to stop the state-owned clubs just running amok and then a global salary cap too would be really effective.

Also more restrictions on players you can own . stop clubs having 40 odd players on loan like Chelsea

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4657 on: June 19, 2025, 04:47:10 PM »
Salary Cap is the way.

Unless it is a worldwide one imposed by FIFA then I can't see that working.  If just the Premier League imposed one or even just UEFA, the Saudi league amongst others would just start hoovering up players. 

If the idea behind the financial.restrictions is to stop clubs from bankrupting themselves, then surely there are better checks that could be implemented?

It is supposed to stop the clubs being loaded with debt like Portsmouth ended up with , Manchester United take a bow
This is the thing. A revenue-based test is flawed without being backed up by a balance sheet test. We don't have a huge debt pile and owners that are happy to put their money in as equity rather than gearing up the business like the glazers did. It needs both to stop the state-owned clubs just running amok and then a global salary cap too would be really effective.

Also more restrictions on players you can own . stop clubs having 40 odd players on loan like Chelsea
Yep. Absolutely. Max number of loans or max squad size or however. But agree also needs addressing to stop stockpiling. As someone pointed out on another thread look at C115's bench last night. They've just bought Nypan to stop anyone else having him like they did with Grealish and Phillips. Chelsea just buy players like cattle.
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Re: FFP
« Reply #4658 on: June 19, 2025, 04:56:27 PM »
Salary Cap is the way.

Unless it is a worldwide one imposed by FIFA then I can't see that working.  If just the Premier League imposed one or even just UEFA, the Saudi league amongst others would just start hoovering up players. 

If the idea behind the financial.restrictions is to stop clubs from bankrupting themselves, then surely there are better checks that could be implemented?

It is supposed to stop the clubs being loaded with debt like Portsmouth ended up with , Manchester United take a bow
This is the thing. A revenue-based test is flawed without being backed up by a balance sheet test. We don't have a huge debt pile and owners that are happy to put their money in as equity rather than gearing up the business like the glazers did. It needs both to stop the state-owned clubs just running amok and then a global salary cap too would be really effective.

Also more restrictions on players you can own . stop clubs having 40 odd players on loan like Chelsea
Yep. Absolutely. Max number of loans or max squad size or however. But agree also needs addressing to stop stockpiling. As someone pointed out on another thread look at C115's bench last night. They've just bought Nypan to stop anyone else having him like they did with Grealish and Phillips. Chelsea just buy players like cattle.


ooooh if we ran FIFA  !!!

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4659 on: June 19, 2025, 05:13:07 PM »
Of course FIFA being beholden to Saudi (see World Cup and club World Cup) means they won't do anything the Saudis won't want them to.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4660 on: June 19, 2025, 05:16:55 PM »
Salary Cap is the way.
Would that cause players and agents to play the ‘restricting my trade’ card in much the same way Bosman did, which essentially started this whole thing in the first place ?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4661 on: June 19, 2025, 05:18:54 PM »
Of course FIFA being beholden to Saudi (see World Cup and club World Cup) means they won't do anything the Saudis won't want them to.

Yes it is good how the football family has really cleaned its act up

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4662 on: June 19, 2025, 05:21:15 PM »
Maybe something where everyone can spend the same  percentage amount that the highest  turnover club produces from the previous year ?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4663 on: June 19, 2025, 05:24:19 PM »
Salary Cap is the way.
Would that cause players and agents to play the ‘restricting my trade’ card in much the same way Bosman did, which essentially started this whole thing in the first place ?

No restriction on individual salaries.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4664 on: June 19, 2025, 06:19:46 PM »
This is easily resolved.  Just go back to being bang average every year.

We used to dream of bang average in the 2010s

I take your point, but I can't ever remember dreaming of being average personally. I remember wishing we weren't so abject at times, but mediocrity has never appealed. 

 


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