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Offline Tuscans

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4215 on: April 05, 2025, 09:56:21 AM »
Aston Villa submit 23/24 accounts. Note these cover 13 months to 30 June 2024 to allow player sales in June '24 for PSR
🔑figures
⚽️Revenue £276m ⬆️27%
⚽️Wages £252m ⬆️30%
⚽️Wages £91 for every £100 revenue ⬆️£2
⚽️Amortisation £97m ⬆️4%
⚽️Underlying loss £150m ⬆️8%
⚽️Player sale profits £65m ⬆️188%
⚽️Pre tax loss £86m ⬇️29%
⚽️Player purchases £168m
⚽️Player sales £83m
⚽️Total transfer cost of squad £503m
⚽️Total losses over the years £789m


Offline olaftab

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4216 on: April 05, 2025, 10:18:07 AM »
Thank you for posting. All looks very fragile to me.

And did we really have a Director on nearly £3M a year in 2016?

Offline paul_e

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4217 on: April 05, 2025, 10:20:14 AM »
Thank you for posting. All looks very fragile to me.

And did we really have a Director on nearly £3M a year in 2016?

I guess you mean 2016 and I'd assume that will have been a one off payment relating too the sale.

Offline Footy-Vill

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4218 on: April 05, 2025, 10:26:43 AM »
Aston Villa submit 23/24 accounts. Note these cover 13 months to 30 June 2024 to allow player sales in June '24 for PSR
🔑figures
⚽️Revenue £276m ⬆️27%
⚽️Wages £252m ⬆️30%
⚽️Wages £91 for every £100 revenue ⬆️£2
⚽️Amortisation £97m ⬆️4%
⚽️Underlying loss £150m ⬆️8%
⚽️Player sale profits £65m ⬆️188%
⚽️Pre tax loss £86m ⬇️29%
⚽️Player purchases £168m
⚽️Player sales £83m
⚽️Total transfer cost of squad £503m
⚽️Total losses over the years £789m



Offline Somniloquism

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4219 on: April 05, 2025, 10:33:02 AM »
Noticeable we had a director on over a mil a year and that drops to 650k at the same period Purslow leaves and Heck comes in. I suspect he must have had a contract which gave him loads with Prem qualification to have a job though.

Offline Tuscans

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4220 on: April 05, 2025, 10:34:30 AM »
Chelsea - 🔺 EXCLUSIVE: Chelsea have breached Uefa’s limits on financial losses for last season after the governing body did not allow the club to count as income selling its women’s team to a sister company for £200million.

Offline DB

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4221 on: April 05, 2025, 10:46:24 AM »
Chelsea - 🔺 EXCLUSIVE: Chelsea have breached Uefa’s limits on financial losses for last season after the governing body did not allow the club to count as income selling its women’s team to a sister company for £200million.

Saw that...oh dear, what a choker.

Offline Lsvilla

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4222 on: April 05, 2025, 11:35:50 AM »
So they'll get a fine then. Peanuts.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4223 on: April 05, 2025, 11:43:02 AM »
So they'll get a fine then. Peanuts.

UEFA have kicked teams out of their tournaments in the past for breach of financial rules. I doubt it would happen in this case.

Offline Brazilian Villain

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4224 on: April 05, 2025, 01:02:46 PM »
So they'll get a fine then. Peanuts.

UEFA have kicked teams out of their tournaments in the past for breach of financial rules. I doubt it would happen in this case.

They'll allow them to retrospectively add in their income from the Club World Cup (or some such nonsense).

Offline IFWaters

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4225 on: April 05, 2025, 01:04:50 PM »
I think everyone in the PL is waiting on the 115 ruling. If they get away with it or some peanuts fine I think it will split the PL between those who will seek to overthrow the current rules as a sham and those who do quite well, ta very much.

UEFA though is a harder nut to crack as there are very powerful vested interests and they don't want the superleague to happen.

I think it's next season that European PSR limits player wages to 70 or 80% of turnover which at the moment look pretty hard for us to hit unless we sell again.

Offline IFWaters

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4226 on: April 05, 2025, 01:11:21 PM »
One thing in these figures I can't get my head round. Player wages for the 2023/24 season of £252 million. So we have a first team squad of 25 players plus maybe 5 out on loan. 30 players total, forget youth players they get peanuts.

252 million divided by 30 is an AVERAGE wage of £8.4 million a year or just over £160k a week. Is that right??? When you hear Rogers is on £75k a week ive always assumed that's Gross or is it his wages after tax? If the latter then Jesus Christ.

Offline Tuscans

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4227 on: April 05, 2025, 01:38:06 PM »
One thing in these figures I can't get my head round. Player wages for the 2023/24 season of £252 million. So we have a first team squad of 25 players plus maybe 5 out on loan. 30 players total, forget youth players they get peanuts.

252 million divided by 30 is an AVERAGE wage of £8.4 million a year or just over £160k a week. Is that right??? When you hear Rogers is on £75k a week ive always assumed that's Gross or is it his wages after tax? If the latter then Jesus Christ.

If I'm right I believe wages under operating expenses would cover every employee working at the club, not just playing staff.

Offline IFWaters

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4228 on: April 05, 2025, 01:49:53 PM »
One thing in these figures I can't get my head round. Player wages for the 2023/24 season of £252 million. So we have a first team squad of 25 players plus maybe 5 out on loan. 30 players total, forget youth players they get peanuts.

252 million divided by 30 is an AVERAGE wage of £8.4 million a year or just over £160k a week. Is that right??? When you hear Rogers is on £75k a week ive always assumed that's Gross or is it his wages after tax? If the latter then Jesus Christ.

If I'm right I believe wages under operating expenses would cover every employee working at the club, not just playing staff.

Hi it may well do but let's say the club have 200 employees on an average of 50k each that's still only 10 million. Perhaps double that for a few execs you still get less than 10% on non-player salaries.

Offline Stu

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4229 on: April 05, 2025, 01:55:38 PM »
I've thought it for a while but I think this season is going to be the best opportunity we have to get some silverware for a good while, because we're going to cash in on a good few players in the summer.

 


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