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Offline AV82EC

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4185 on: April 01, 2025, 08:47:13 AM »
Meanwhile Chelsea record a profit because they sold their women’s team to themselves which is within the rules apparently 🤷🏼‍♂️

They sold their own hotels to themselves last season for £80m and the Womens team this season for almost £200m. It's a total farce what they allow Man City and Chelsea to get away with.

Was it a total farce when they allowed us to get away with selling our own ground to ourselves?

That wasn't the Premier League.

It doesn’t matter.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4186 on: April 01, 2025, 08:54:15 AM »
Why do you think the Premier League allow certain clubs a more lenient interpretation of the rules?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4187 on: April 01, 2025, 09:00:41 AM »
Why do you think the Premier League allow certain clubs a more lenient interpretation of the rules?

They don’t. If we had wanted to sell our ground as a PL club we could have as Chelsea have. I’ve no doubt all clubs will now be looking to sell their Women’s team into a separate legal entity if it makes sense from a PSR perspective. This isn’t hard to understand.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4188 on: April 01, 2025, 09:14:10 AM »
What I do find hard to understand is the profit booked for the ladies team, if you are selling to a related party how do you justify the ladies team is at fair value?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4189 on: April 01, 2025, 09:19:48 AM »
I'm not adverse to the sale, the question has to be the valuation. No way is a Woman's team worth £200mil when 8x CL winners Lyon are only valued at £45m.

Offline aj2k77

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4190 on: April 01, 2025, 09:29:33 AM »
Why do you think the Premier League allow certain clubs a more lenient interpretation of the rules?

They don’t. If we had wanted to sell our ground as a PL club we could have as Chelsea have. I’ve no doubt all clubs will now be looking to sell their Women’s team into a separate legal entity if it makes sense from a PSR perspective. This isn’t hard to understand.

You think Villa would be allowed to sell the womens team for £200m? There's no money in the Womens game. It's shit.

Offline aj2k77

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4191 on: April 01, 2025, 10:01:49 AM »
For context the Chelsea Ladies revenue in 2024 was £11m.

Offline AV82EC

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4192 on: April 01, 2025, 10:02:25 AM »
Why do you think the Premier League allow certain clubs a more lenient interpretation of the rules?

They don’t. If we had wanted to sell our ground as a PL club we could have as Chelsea have. I’ve no doubt all clubs will now be looking to sell their Women’s team into a separate legal entity if it makes sense from a PSR perspective. This isn’t hard to understand.

You think Villa would be allowed to sell the womens team for £200m? There's no money in the Womens game. It's shit.

Well of course we wouldn’t get £200m for the women’s team as we’re nowhere near as succcesful as Chelsea. I personally do have an issue with the valuation but not the principle of them being able to do it.

Offline aj2k77

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4193 on: April 01, 2025, 10:07:51 AM »
Their revenue is on par with a midtable league one club, a Lincoln or Mansfield. It doesn't matter how relatively successful they are, there's no money in it. You can't value the World Championship winning conkers team at £50m because no one gives a fuck about it. If Nottingham Forest had valued a ladies team at £50m to get around FFP they would have been laughed at and probably punished further. They allow Chelsea and Man City to manipulate the rules and get beneficial treatment because their brands help them sell football in far off places for money.

Chelsea womens team are worth fuck all. Instead of selling Diaby and Luiz last summer we should have sold Villa ladies for £200m.

Offline Sexual Ealing

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4194 on: April 01, 2025, 10:22:37 AM »
Conkers is an individual sport so it's not really comparable.

Offline Duncan Shaw

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4195 on: April 01, 2025, 10:25:01 AM »
And Chelsea and C115y are bascially being given £90 odd million for taking part in this stupid club world cup - Fifa deliberately contributing to the gap

Offline DeKuip

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4196 on: April 01, 2025, 10:40:35 AM »
Conkers is an individual sport so it's not really comparable.
Not that old chestnut again.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4197 on: April 01, 2025, 11:41:59 AM »
There's no conkers in women's football.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4198 on: April 01, 2025, 11:57:06 AM »
I'm not adverse to the sale, the question has to be the valuation. No way is a Woman's team worth £200mil when 8x CL winners Lyon are only valued at £45m.

Would it not be the case that they're more valuable because they own land in London? They've got the former Kingstonian/AFC Wimbledon ground. Not sure if they have separate training facilities to the men. Lyon Women have a small stadium outside the city. Stade Gérard Houllier.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4199 on: April 01, 2025, 12:01:26 PM »
Was the land included? Chelsea Reserves are still playing there so do they now "rent" the ground from the women?

 


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