FFP

[Demitri_C]

You are the only person who has used the word lying which isnt suprising

[pauliewalnuts]

Yeah I've always been sceptical about the waiting list, I know loads who don't have ST's who never seem to have trouble getting to see a game

those things aren't the same though. Plenty of people will be on the waiting list who won't pay for individual tickets. Plenty more will be on there knowing it's going to take a while before it gets to them and they are speculating. Plenty more still will have plans for weekends based on not having a season ticket that would change if they got one.

I would be more likely to buy a season ticket and then reorganise my life around regular games than I am to buy one or two matchday tickets.

[paul_e]

Yeah I've always been sceptical about the waiting list, I know loads who don't have ST's who never seem to have trouble getting to see a game

those things aren't the same though. Plenty of people will be on the waiting list who won't pay for individual tickets. Plenty more will be on there knowing it's going to take a while before it gets to them and they are speculating. Plenty more still will have plans for weekends based on not having a season ticket that would change if they got one.

I would be more likely to buy a season ticket and then reorganise my life around regular games than I am to buy one or two matchday tickets.

Exactly, and I suspect that's true for a huge portion of that list.

[DB]

Yeah I've always been sceptical about the waiting list, I know loads who don't have ST's who never seem to have trouble getting to see a game

those things aren't the same though. Plenty of people will be on the waiting list who won't pay for individual tickets. Plenty more will be on there knowing it's going to take a while before it gets to them and they are speculating. Plenty more still will have plans for weekends based on not having a season ticket that would change if they got one.

I would be more likely to buy a season ticket and then reorganise my life around regular games than I am to buy one or two matchday tickets.

Exactly, and I suspect that's true for a huge portion of that list.

I am one of those. Go to a lot of matches as a member, but having a ST would be so much better. I am around 8K on the waiting list.

[aj2k77]

Does the FFP £400 include player sales too - as we probably won't be selling two more players for £60m+ next season.

Does the FFP £400 include player sales too - as we probably won't be selling two more players for £60m+ next season.

No.

Yes. The Joe money kept us FFP compliant for three years.

No.

Yes. The Joe money kept us FFP compliant for three years.

The £400m targeted revenue stream does not include player sales. Grealish is nothing to do with it.

[Percy McCarthy]

Does the FFP £400 include player sales too - as we probably won't be selling two more players for £60m+ next season.

Does the FFP £400 include player sales too - as we probably won't be selling two more players for £60m+ next season.

No.

Yes. The Joe money kept us FFP compliant for three years.

No.

Yes. The Joe money kept us FFP compliant for three years.

The £400m targeted revenue stream does not include player sales. Grealish is nothing to do with it.

How strange then that Monchi specifically said a couple of months ago that player trading was an important part of raising revenue.

And in his question, London Villan specifically referenced the FFP £400m.

[aj2k77]

The £400m revenue Heck is referring to will not include player trading. Player trading/salaries etc is reflected in the profit and loss.

[Concrete Tom]

Accounts must be due soon. They were released 4th March last year.

[Drummond]

I think we've changed our year end to match the PSR, official season, and usual contract end date of 30th June.

[Percy McCarthy]

I think we've changed our year end to match the PSR, official season, and usual contract end date of 30th June.

This is true Drummond, but the accounts that will be released will be those up to June 30th last year,, so CT could be right. They have been compiled and audited, which is why the headline figures have been given to Deloitte for their Money League survey that is released every January.

[Percy McCarthy]

The £400m revenue Heck is referring to will not include player trading. Player trading/salaries etc is reflected in the profit and loss.

And FFP is based on profit and loss. If and when our accounts show turnover of £400m, I think that will be Heck’s target achieved. I’ve never heard anyone specify ‘turnover excluding player trading’ rather than just turnover. I could have course be wrong and would be grateful if you point could point out where that has been specified.

[Somniloquism]

I think aj2k77 is commenting on the article mentioned which doesn't seem to state anything about the increased revenue being from player trades, just on everything else.

[Tuscans]

🚨UEFA's 2024 Financial Landscape report is out and more or less confirms that Villa will fail UEFA Squad Cost test (possibly sustainability too). Chelsea also appear to fail. Newcastle very close but not in Europe this season.

PSG and Roma in settlement regimes so not sure how those are impacted/dealt with.

NB: this is the raw Wage:Turnover ratio but directionally indicative of SCR. No major shocks but also shows UEFA's appraisal of revenue - meaningful differences with Chelsea (€25m lower vs Deloitte (€545m)).

[AV82EC]

Like Percy I’m struggling to understand why anyone would exclude Player Trading from any conversation, it’s a legitimate tool in the “increasing turnover” armory and is fully reflected in the P&L.

If it’s excluded because people are now talking SCR then there’ll be loads of other stuff excluded as well so I’m struggling to understand why Player Trading (profit or loss) is even mentioned.

[ChicagoLion]

Does the FFP £400 include player sales too - as we probably won't be selling two more players for £60m+ next season.

Does the FFP £400 include player sales too - as we probably won't be selling two more players for £60m+ next season.

No.

Yes. The Joe money kept us FFP compliant for three years.

No.

Yes. The Joe money kept us FFP compliant for three years.

The £400m targeted revenue stream does not include player sales. Grealish is nothing to do with it.

How strange then that Monchi specifically said a couple of months ago that player trading was an important part of raising revenue.

And in his question, London Villan specifically referenced the FFP £400m.

I can see why for targeting purposes you would focus on revenue stream not asset realisation profits.