FFP

[paul_e]

Yep, Leicester being in the shit and Chelsea as risk if the womens team/hotel stuff goes against them is pretty well known.

West Ham and Everton are the other 2 that'll are likely to be running it tight.

[Toronto Villa]

We should do what Forest did. Bought a load of players. Broke the rules. Got fined and docked points. Stayed up. Kept the players and are now benefitting from breaking the rules.

[Demitri_C]

We should do what Forest did. Bought a load of players. Broke the rules. Got fined and docked points. Stayed up. Kept the players and are now benefitting from breaking the rules.

Said this as well got laughed at by a few posters. The whole FFP is a mockery

[Clampy]

We should do what Forest did. Bought a load of players. Broke the rules. Got fined and docked points. Stayed up. Kept the players and are now benefitting from breaking the rules.

Knowing our luck, we'd get demoted to the Championship if we tried it.

[Demitri_C]

Forest  got docked 4 points for breaching by 34.5m. Lets say ours was double at 69m that would be a 8 point deduction.  I think we would have more or close to 8 points more and have a better side.

[Percy McCarthy]

Anyway, we’ll pass according to Swiss Ramble.

[Dave]

Forest  got docked 4 points for breaching by 34.5m. Lets say ours was double at 69m that would be a 8 point deduction.  I think we would have more or close to 8 points more and have a better side.

That's not how it works. Forest claimed that it should be all okay because they sold Johnson to cover it, just slightly outside the correct accounting period. Which obviously isn't okay, but they were able to claim that they were within the spirit of the rules even if the dates weren't quite right. So their punishment wasn't that bad.

If we'd said "these rules are dumb, we're ignoring them and just taking the punishment" then we'd have had the book thrown at us. Which is why we didn't, and no other club is.

[Villatillidie25]

Forest  got docked 4 points for breaching by 34.5m. Lets say ours was double at 69m that would be a 8 point deduction.  I think we would have more or close to 8 points more and have a better side.

That's not how it works. Forest claimed that it should be all okay because they sold Johnson to cover it, just slightly outside the correct accounting period. Which obviously isn't okay, but they were able to claim that they were within the spirit of the rules even if the dates weren't quite right. So their punishment wasn't that bad.

If we'd said "these rules are dumb, we're ignoring them and just taking the punishment" then we'd have had the book thrown at us. Which is why we didn't, and no other club is.

It's also another reason why the rules aren't fit for purpose. The clubs agreed that guidelines or rules for punishment weren't required when they established them, meaning you have these ridiculous hearings that go on to decide what the punishment should be, wasting time and money.

[Beard82]

They do need to sort the Man City thing out though - because effectively it looks like they just decided to ignore the rules and have been able to build one of the most successful football businesses because of it

[Olneythelonely]

We should do what Forest did. Bought a load of players. Broke the rules. Got fined and docked points. Stayed up. Kept the players and are now benefitting from breaking the rules.

Said this as well got laughed at by a few posters. The whole FFP is a mockery

It’s still a laughable suggestion (I’m not convinced Toronto is 100% serious), they don’t just give points based on how much you’ve gone over. We’d have been punished for just ignoring the rules, Forest argued they just got the timing slightly wrong.

Edit - I see Dave has made the point better than I have

[lovejoy]

Man City's FFP isn't so much about player transfer as inflating income from sponsorship from related parties, paying staff for services outside the club so off the books and not co-operating with the enquiry.

[Demitri_C]

Forest  got docked 4 points for breaching by 34.5m. Lets say ours was double at 69m that would be a 8 point deduction.  I think we would have more or close to 8 points more and have a better side.

That's not how it works. Forest claimed that it should be all okay because they sold Johnson to cover it, just slightly outside the correct accounting period. Which obviously isn't okay, but they were able to claim that they were within the spirit of the rules even if the dates weren't quite right. So their punishment wasn't that bad.

If we'd said "these rules are dumb, we're ignoring them and just taking the punishment" then we'd have had the book thrown at us. Which is why we didn't, and no other club is.

Thats why you have good lawyers 👍

[Toronto Villa]

We should do what Forest did. Bought a load of players. Broke the rules. Got fined and docked points. Stayed up. Kept the players and are now benefitting from breaking the rules.

Said this as well got laughed at by a few posters. The whole FFP is a mockery

It’s still a laughable suggestion (I’m not convinced Toronto is 100% serious), they don’t just give points based on how much you’ve gone over. We’d have been punished for just ignoring the rules, Forest argued they just got the timing slightly wrong.

Edit - I see Dave has made the point better than I have

Nah we just need to be clever about it and high priced lawyers to find loopholes and drag it out. Making a mockery out of what is already a mockery. I’m not being serious, but the rules are flawed. The fact that Man City and Chelsea have done what they have and yes, Forest to a degree means that for minor penalties they get to keep their better or best players. We end up having to sell Doug and bring in players, most who are on loan or below the needed standard to keep us moving forward.

[VILLA MOLE]

I caught the end of  something on Talksport where they said Chelsea had sold their womens team to themselves, ehh ? how does that work ?

[Dave]

Forest  got docked 4 points for breaching by 34.5m. Lets say ours was double at 69m that would be a 8 point deduction.  I think we would have more or close to 8 points more and have a better side.

That's not how it works. Forest claimed that it should be all okay because they sold Johnson to cover it, just slightly outside the correct accounting period. Which obviously isn't okay, but they were able to claim that they were within the spirit of the rules even if the dates weren't quite right. So their punishment wasn't that bad.

If we'd said "these rules are dumb, we're ignoring them and just taking the punishment" then we'd have had the book thrown at us. Which is why we didn't, and no other club is.

Thats why you have good lawyers 👍

I expect that Nas and Wes do have good lawyers. Or at the very least, expensive lawyers.

Up to now, the expert legal advice that they have given the club doesn't seem to have included your suggestion of "just fuck the rules and see what happens".