FFP

[wince]

Fuck modern football. Makes me sick we have to sell family silver to even survive let alone compete.

[Stu]

Here you go mate...

https://archive.ph/nhZ6f

Cheers!

[VillaTim]

Fuck modern football. Makes me sick we have to sell family silver to even survive let alone compete.

The monster is devouring itself .

[PaulWinch again]

Obviously I appreciate there’s still a degree of speculation to this, but does anyone have a view as to how much this deal might alleviate our PSR issues? Based on the assumed figures.

[VillaTim]

Obviously I appreciate there’s still a degree of speculation to this, but does anyone have a view as to how much this deal might alleviate our PSR issues? Based on the assumed figures.

Hopefully this will solve it short term plus the likes of Coutinho Chambers Dendonker Hause etc going will help.
What we don't know is how bad the next set of accounts will be .

[paul_e]

Obviously I appreciate there’s still a degree of speculation to this, but does anyone have a view as to how much this deal might alleviate our PSR issues? Based on the assumed figures.

Lets make a few assumptions:
1. Iling-Junior and McKinnie both sign on 4-5year contracts.
2. Luiz is valude at £70m in the deal.

Based on that we 'gain' £70m in the books and pay £10-12.5m on the incomings, giving us a book profit of £57.5-60m less signing fees and any difference in wages.

If we also assume that the 'need to sell' stuff is bollocks, as I expect it to be, it means we'd have a huge amount of overhead for more spending.

[Beard82]

Obviously I appreciate there’s still a degree of speculation to this, but does anyone have a view as to how much this deal might alleviate our PSR issues? Based on the assumed figures.

Lets make a few assumptions:
1. Iling-Junior and McKinnie both sign on 4-5year contracts.
2. Luiz is valude at £70m in the deal.

Based on that we 'gain' £70m in the books and pay £10-12.5m on the incomings, giving us a book profit of £57.5-60m less signing fees and any difference in wages.

If we also assume that the 'need to sell' stuff is bollocks, as I expect it to be, it means we'd have a huge amount of overhead for more spending.

I don't think it was bollocks.  We told Juve to jog on - tried to increase acceptable loses and it failed - and now were accepting Juves offer.   I think thats all linked

[PaulWinch again]

Obviously I appreciate there’s still a degree of speculation to this, but does anyone have a view as to how much this deal might alleviate our PSR issues? Based on the assumed figures.

Lets make a few assumptions:
1. Iling-Junior and McKinnie both sign on 4-5year contracts.
2. Luiz is valude at £70m in the deal.

Based on that we 'gain' £70m in the books and pay £10-12.5m on the incomings, giving us a book profit of £57.5-60m less signing fees and any difference in wages.

If we also assume that the 'need to sell' stuff is bollocks, as I expect it to be, it means we'd have a huge amount of overhead for more spending.

I don't think it was bollocks.  We told Juve to jog on - tried to increase acceptable loses and it failed - and now were accepting Juves offer.   I think thats all linked

After adding Illing-Junior. Thanks both.

[paul_e]

Obviously I appreciate there’s still a degree of speculation to this, but does anyone have a view as to how much this deal might alleviate our PSR issues? Based on the assumed figures.

Lets make a few assumptions:
1. Iling-Junior and McKinnie both sign on 4-5year contracts.
2. Luiz is valude at £70m in the deal.

Based on that we 'gain' £70m in the books and pay £10-12.5m on the incomings, giving us a book profit of £57.5-60m less signing fees and any difference in wages.

If we also assume that the 'need to sell' stuff is bollocks, as I expect it to be, it means we'd have a huge amount of overhead for more spending.

I don't think it was bollocks.  We told Juve to jog on - tried to increase acceptable loses and it failed - and now were accepting Juves offer.   I think thats all linked

There's plenty of reasons why we'd have takent he offer in the end before you get to the 'desperately needed to sell by the end of the month' line that has been passed around in the press. I wouldn't be massively surprised if the main thing was the vote on increasing the cap going against us so we decided this was the simplest way to get breathing room to bring in a few other new faces.

I also wouldn't be surprised if Iling-Junior was on our list anyway, he fits the profile of the sort of signings I expect Monchi to be mostly after this summer.

McKinnie is the outlier for me but at a guess I think he's been accepted because he fits the bill of adding a bit more physicality into what is a pretty light-weight midfield when Kamara is missing.

[Beard82]

I think physicallity is a big thing we have lacked - and I think Rogers was the first sign to combat it, and I think the two signings are similar.  I think both of these were probably on the maybe list.  We need a bigger squad and I wouldn't be surprised if Unai is looking at these two as an upgrade on KKH and Tim - rather than replacements for Luiz and Cash

I think we would have ended up selling Luiz - but I don't think we would have done it in this way - or at least would have held out to see if there were other offers.  Both are coming into the last year of there contracts - I think the fact we can "game" FFP has meant it happening now. 

[Beard82]

Looks like Duran is next out. 

I would be slightly disappointed as I think he will be a 100m player at some point soon.  Feels like the legendary manager's "clear out" of players that are "surplus to requirements"

Hoping it is to boost the "War Chest" for a "Big Summer".

Which probably ends up with us talking up the returning Zanilio on the 31st of August.

[PaulWinch again]

Is there any reliable sources on Duran? If he goes I’ll be disappointed but £40-50m is a good deal for us at this time.

[PeterWithesShin]

We've been linked with both players before, Doug has been happy to leave before. It could be down to the players rather than just always PSR.

[Beard82]

Is there any reliable sources on Duran? If he goes I’ll be disappointed but £40-50m is a good deal for us at this time.

Fabrizio just Tweeted it

[VillaTim]

Looks like Duran is next out. 

I would be slightly disappointed as I think he will be a 100m player at some point soon.  Feels like the legendary manager's "clear out" of players that are "surplus to requirements"

Hoping it is to boost the "War Chest" for a "Big Summer".

Which probably ends up with us talking up the returning Zanilio on the 31st of August.

Very comfortable with Duran going. Beyond the odd flash I don't think he's cut out for this level. Good luck to him though.