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Online Rudy Can't Fail

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3030 on: June 11, 2024, 11:24:11 PM »
From the numbers reported it looks like we're taking a £20m hit on Dougie to meet the laws.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3031 on: June 11, 2024, 11:30:12 PM »
Duran will end up in Belgium or Holland somewhere like that . I suspect he'll have a bumpy Road of a career but still far better than a 9 to 5 desk job.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3032 on: June 12, 2024, 07:27:10 AM »
PSR rules 'not good' for football - Villa co-owner - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cp33r2vjm2lo

The Times are reporting the FT article this morning but are adding that Nas is considering a legal challenge on the PL

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3033 on: June 12, 2024, 10:01:22 AM »
PSR rules 'not good' for football - Villa co-owner - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cp33r2vjm2lo

The Times are reporting the FT article this morning but are adding that Nas is considering a legal challenge on the PL

I’m surprised this hasn’t been challenged earlier.   Not that I agree with owners being able to saddle any club with massive debt, surely there has to be a better way? I think it’s been suggested quite a few times but if an owner wants to spend over FFP limits then they have to secure it with a bond of some sort.
I’ve no idea if that would work but I don’t think the current rules will be with us for too many years to come.
It’s clear our owners want to heavily invest in us and are frustrated at not being able to. I fear that the current rules will benefit the current ESL 6 more than anyone else.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3034 on: June 12, 2024, 11:33:39 AM »
Share the wealth, like in the NFL. Let Ipswich have the same money to spend as Man United. Have a genuinely competitive and unpredictable league. Why should Man Utd and Liverpool be among the best teams for the rest of time because they acquired a lot of glory-hunting twats in the 80s and 90s?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3035 on: June 12, 2024, 11:41:41 AM »
Share the wealth, like in the NFL. Let Ipswich have the same money to spend as Man United. Have a genuinely competitive and unpredictable league. Why should Man Utd and Liverpool be among the best teams for the rest of time because they acquired a lot of glory-hunting twats in the 80s and 90s?

But the problem remains how you limit that?

As in, it's okay saying Ipswich can spend the same amount as Man City... but, they literally don't have the money if Man City can spend what they want.

Now that state-ownership is a thing, you have to free up clubs to spend, but you still have to prevent them leveraging the power of the state's finances.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3036 on: June 12, 2024, 11:42:42 AM »
We need rules specifically designed to benefit us.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3037 on: June 12, 2024, 11:42:54 AM »
Oi. I'm the ideas man. Someone else can work out the details. Honestly, I'm not getting paid for this, you know. Tsk.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3038 on: June 12, 2024, 11:46:44 AM »
If only we had a competent system of government that could step in and make state-ownership of British sporting teams illegal and give them x years to sell up or find a new league.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3039 on: June 12, 2024, 11:47:24 AM »
It is odd that a capitalist nation such as the USA has the most socialist approach to how their main sport is governed. Whether it's the right way for football here is another thing. Preventing clubs breaking the monopoly of the established big six has to be sorted.  I'd start with banning any club associated with the sourcing and sale of fossil fuels.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3040 on: June 12, 2024, 11:54:47 AM »
It wouldn't work. American sports are self contained, we work in a larger market.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3041 on: June 12, 2024, 11:57:45 AM »
Share the wealth, like in the NFL. Let Ipswich have the same money to spend as Man United. Have a genuinely competitive and unpredictable league. Why should Man Utd and Liverpool be among the best teams for the rest of time because they acquired a lot of glory-hunting twats in the 80s and 90s?
I wouldn't necessarily go that far, but I do think TV money should be split absolutely equally and there should be much less difference in league placement prize money.  Also, no coefficient euro payments.

The horse has bolted with the expansion of the Champions League, but that should have been stopped too.

A spending cap would be ideal, but 20 clubs will have different views on what that should be and it would hand the initiative to any leagues without such caps, so it can't really work unless it's global, or at least euro wide.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3042 on: June 12, 2024, 07:14:36 PM »
Inverting it would be even fairer. Promoted clubs get the most.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3043 on: June 12, 2024, 07:24:03 PM »
as soon as you try and democratize the PL Liverpool and Manure will say fuck off.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3044 on: June 12, 2024, 07:25:41 PM »
Lucky there's only two of them. I'd still be kicking those twats out of the league for the match-fixing they never got punished for. Even Juventus got relegated. Imagine being part of a league that is more corrupt than Serie A. Fucking Hell.

 


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