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[LeeB]

It's got be the option of either you sell up and leave, or you get relegated to the national league.

But it won't be.

[Dogtanian]

Surely they have to be kicked out, for good?  I know it's easier said than done, but otherwise the already hopelessly skewed league is doomed.

Exactly, they've already pretty much broken the league, and now they want to make it so nobody can ever have a chance of toppling them in future.

They're scum, they literally don't understand the term 'sporting', all they understand is getting everything they want.

[Beard82]

It doesn't help that the rules have proven to be a complete farce and cause frustrations for all clubs - like you say - it's all of the PL making, and the clubs that voted for it. 

I think that is part of the opportunism of the legal action Man City are taking  - knowing a lot of the other PL clubs are frustrated with the "status quo"

[Risso]

Surely they have to be kicked out, for good?  I know it's easier said than done, but otherwise the already hopelessly skewed league is doomed.

Exactly, they've already pretty much broken the league, and now they want to make it so nobody can ever have a chance of toppling them in future.

They're scum, they literally don't understand the term 'sporting', all they understand is getting everything they want.

Exactly. All that "tyranny of the majority" rubbish. We call that "democracy" over here, sunshine.

[LeeB]

Or Brexit.

[Somniloquism]

It doesn't help that the rules have proven to be a complete farce and cause frustrations for all clubs - like you say - it's all of the PL making, and the clubs that voted for it. 

I think that is part of the opportunism of the legal action Man City are taking  - knowing a lot of the other PL clubs are frustrated with the "status quo"

Are they? Wolves have tabled a motion for a vote on the use of VAR. We have tabled on the motion to change the values of the PSR from 105-135. There was a vote the other month about some other PSR changes as well. That is the format that should have been done, not fucking a nuclear legal option because they don't like something but 67% won't vote for it to be removed. (With at least that amount voting for the rules in the first place).

The legal option is just to delay the 115 charges again (which was supposed to have been May but has been sent to November) and to make the prem spend more on legal fees themselves. Maybe some club should put forward a vote that legal fee spent by the club to battle the PL should be included in PSR expenses. Afterall they are "football" costs. 

[Beard82]

Its the classic prisoner's dilemma.

The PL gives in there ruined
Man City give in their ruined
Neither give in were all ruined
Both give in (i.e. some kind of fudge) Man City and PL both survive.  The integrity of the competition is ruined (i.e. the status quo).

It will end up with some fudge which means Man City gets off effectively.

[Nev]

What The PL must realise is that should Stockport 115 be found in breach, docked points, relegated, titles removed, or even stop competing in the league then it will make little difference to the competition, it's ability to make money and popularity around the world. Prior to Man City becoming S115, they were out of the PL and things were just fine. Some other team will take their place and be the dominant side for while, that's the cyclical nature of Football, and it would have been Liverpool or Arsenal, hardly unattractive sides. The PL must not fold at any point.

The one good thing that has come out of this is that S115 have won the majority of honours through nefarious means, they've more or less admitted this so me shouting "cheats!" seconds after they lift a trophy doesn't sound so bitter and pathetic now. Nice one Joe.

[Baldy]

The Premier League have a massive dilemma:

1) Open the flood gates and let the richest folk in the world own our clubs, spend potentially trillions and do what they want.

2) Or, keep tightening the shackles and try and maintain 'a level playing field' for all English clubs as much as possible.

Tighten the shackles and Abu Dhabi, Saudi Arabia etc will simply jump ship and invest their billions elsewhere.

You can guarantee clubs like Juventus, Milan, Inter etc and their Spanish counterparts are waiting with baited breath!! They wont turn their nose up at billions or trilllions.

The Premier League could pale into insignificance.

What a dilimma.

[Monty]

Milan and Inter, maybe, but Juve (Agnelli vanity project), Real, and Barça (literally legally enforced) could only come to the sort of minority investment agreements that don't interest the sheikhs at all. More likely they'd just pile all their money into an acquirable and growable outsider club like Man City were - Lazio maybe.

[Stu]

Completely fine with them fucking off elsewhere. Although our government need to step in here and take steps to protect one of Britain’s greatest cultural exports from an aggressive foreign state.

[chrisw1]

The PL are as much to blame by allowing this to drag on for years.  They should have sorted it at at the first breach, not allow City to hoover up trophies for the next 10 seasons.

They're weak as piss.  It's almost inevitable that the outcome will be City drop their lawsuit and in return get the most modest of slaps on the wrist for the 115.  They will have played a blinder.

[Baldy]

Milan and Inter, maybe, but Juve (Agnelli vanity project), Real, and Barça (literally legally enforced) could only come to the sort of minority investment agreements that don't interest the sheikhs at all. More likely they'd just pile all their money into an acquirable and growable outsider club like Man City were - Lazio maybe.

Unfortunately, money always talks and some country out there will be contriving to open the doors to the ultra rich, no restraints and attract the world's best players.

Basically, replace the English Premier League.

[Monty]

Milan and Inter, maybe, but Juve (Agnelli vanity project), Real, and Barça (literally legally enforced) could only come to the sort of minority investment agreements that don't interest the sheikhs at all. More likely they'd just pile all their money into an acquirable and growable outsider club like Man City were - Lazio maybe.

Unfortunately, money always talks and some country out there will be contriving to open the doors to the ultra rich, no restraints and attract the world's best players.

Basically, replace the English Premier League.

Well, Girona and Palermo are already owned by the City group multiclub thing. The intention there is more to make them feeder clubs to City, but if things turn south in England I'm sure they'd be happy to expand their ambitions elsewhere.

[Percy McCarthy]

The PL, UEFA and FIFA need to ban nation states or their agents owning clubs.