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Offline Bad English

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2775 on: June 06, 2024, 11:39:15 AM »
If we do, we're being pathetically short-sighted. We think we'll ever compete financially with the Emiratis and the Saudis? Turkeys and Christmas.

No, but we might want to eventually sell to them.

At which point, as I've said before, I'm out.

I used to love watching, boxing, Formula One, cricket in whites with a red ball.and so on but decades have passed since I have watched  those sports because people fucked about with them too much, rendering them meaningless to me. Football is going the same way and I fear that it won't be long before my beloved Villa is/are consigned to the memory stick.

Offline KevinGage

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2776 on: June 06, 2024, 11:40:35 AM »
Had to a laugh - in a what the actual fcuk way - when I heard Khaldoon al-Mubarak wittering on about how the authorities should focus on player welfare, mental burn out and so many other things. Rather than these trifling distractions.

The caring face of despotic rule.

If you don't like what's being said, change the conversation. As per Don Draper, the Footyskilzz group here and some of the other great minds of our times.

Offline paul_e

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2777 on: June 06, 2024, 11:41:51 AM »
There’s also a difference with clubs like Newcastle - as much as I have contempt for their ownership - at least it appears like they are trying to comply with the rules. Citeh have clearly just attempted to circumvent or entirely disregard them. They appear to standalone in their position and need to be taken apart.

The Saudis didn't buy Newcastle to sell their best players and win nothing. New regulations were bought in after that purchase to stop Newcastle in particular spending billions on new players.

Wouldn't be surprised if the Saudis are currently exploring the market elsewhere.

I think any fear of what Newcastle might do needs to be considered in light of what is happening with Neom. In my opinion everything they're doing with sporting events, etc is to generate legitimacy so they can get sponsopship towards their megacity. Forget everything else the 'mark' he wants to leave as his legacy is HIS city and everything is targeted towards making it happen.

That's not to say they won't spend money but more that I can't see them being happy to sink huge sums into it when the real purpose is that it will generate income for them.

Of course I might be completely wrong and his real aim is to develop a huge beer gut and stand around half naked in his spiritual home on the gallowgate.

Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2778 on: June 06, 2024, 11:41:53 AM »
The PL should introduce a rule that you cannot purchase players whilst there is an ongoing dispute/unresolved PRS issues.

It would force any club to disclose any documents as quickly as possible.

Offline VILLA MOLE

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2779 on: June 06, 2024, 11:44:44 AM »
The PL should introduce a rule that you cannot purchase players whilst there is an ongoing dispute/unresolved PRS issues.

It would force any club to disclose any documents as quickly as possible.


That is a good idea

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2780 on: June 06, 2024, 11:48:00 AM »
If Man City don't get there own way with the premier league, you will find that either the Qataris or Saudis will probably fund a 'Super League' that had been discussed previously. Especially, after hearing us, along with Chelsea and Newcastle seem to be on the side of MC.
I also think it would not take too much persuasion to get the likes of Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs on board, Along with the top Spanish, Italian and German clubs.

A sort of LIV golf comes to mind.

Offline Baldy

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2781 on: June 06, 2024, 11:59:33 AM »
The PL should introduce a rule that you cannot purchase players whilst there is an ongoing dispute/unresolved PRS issues.

It would force any club to disclose any documents as quickly as possible.


That is a good idea

True, but 'innocent before being proven guilty' could put the mockers on that.

If EPL proven wrong in their case, it might open the door to compensation being sought against them by the vindicated club.

Just guessing.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2782 on: June 06, 2024, 12:01:26 PM »
If Man City don't get there own way with the premier league, you will find that either the Qataris or Saudis will probably fund a 'Super League' that had been discussed previously. Especially, after hearing us, along with Chelsea and Newcastle seem to be on the side of MC.
I also think it would not take too much persuasion to get the likes of Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs on board, Along with the top Spanish, Italian and German clubs.

A sort of LIV golf comes to mind.

Given that the purpose of these Saudi/Qatari regimes is to use the PL as a sports washing facility it would be very odd for them to decide to use their new found status without anything actually being washed.  Look at us, we're pumping money in, winning everything and now we're going to smash it up. 

Offline jwarry

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2783 on: June 06, 2024, 12:18:56 PM »
After all the finger pointing by the media today I was starting to feel sorry for your genuine City fans as surely they must be feeling the guilt?  So popped over to the Bluemoon forum to check they were suitably mortified only to see a seige  mentality had taken hold and a genuine feeling they should take the FA to the cleaners!  Oh and Matthew Syed is just a racist c***…….

Offline paul_e

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2784 on: June 06, 2024, 12:23:52 PM »
The PL should introduce a rule that you cannot purchase players whilst there is an ongoing dispute/unresolved PRS issues.

It would force any club to disclose any documents as quickly as possible.


That is a good idea

True, but 'innocent before being proven guilty' could put the mockers on that.

If EPL proven wrong in their case, it might open the door to compensation being sought against them by the vindicated club.

Just guessing.

Not really, there are plenty of cases where a suspension of sorts whilst an investigation is completed is completley normal.

Offline Somniloquism

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2785 on: June 06, 2024, 12:36:29 PM »
After all the finger pointing by the media today I was starting to feel sorry for your genuine City fans as surely they must be feeling the guilt?  So popped over to the Bluemoon forum to check they were suitably mortified only to see a seige  mentality had taken hold and a genuine feeling they should take the FA to the cleaners!  Oh and Matthew Syed is just a racist c***…….

What has the FA got to do with it? (I could also ask why everyone has a boner against the Saudis and Qataris when talking about Man Citeh doing this as well?)

Offline Toronto Villa

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2786 on: June 06, 2024, 12:37:06 PM »
In a way this is why I wasn’t entirely against the Super League forming. Let these greedy ****** fuck off. Real Madrid,  Barcelona, Juventus, Man City specifically. I think most of the other major clubs won’t do it. Let them form outside of UEFA and see how much interest remains after a couple of seasons of the same old games. There will still be all the major domestic leagues. There will still be top European tournaments. Still be great international tournaments. But they can go play their games in Saudi Arabia, Qatar etc. The orgasms over it will soon die down as they become LIV golf. While many top players will go there, most fans won’t give a shit. Including many of the fans of those clubs who will find other sides to watch.

Offline eamonn

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2787 on: June 06, 2024, 12:40:59 PM »
What do the old buggers on BlueMoon.com think of all this?

Noel Gallagher refused to join-in the Poznan at Craven Cottage. Right on, brother! Nah, more likely was mortified that what his Kensington neighbour sitting in the neutral end would think of him.

Offline Bad English

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2788 on: June 06, 2024, 12:42:16 PM »
I'd rather watch a league without all of the wanker 'stars' and 'Big™' teams. I'm sure we'd see some great games of football with teams competing and standing a chance. So they™ am are welcome to fuck off and let others get on with it .

Offline paul_e

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2789 on: June 06, 2024, 12:43:15 PM »
After all the finger pointing by the media today I was starting to feel sorry for your genuine City fans as surely they must be feeling the guilt?  So popped over to the Bluemoon forum to check they were suitably mortified only to see a seige  mentality had taken hold and a genuine feeling they should take the FA to the cleaners!  Oh and Matthew Syed is just a racist c***…….

What has the FA got to do with it? (I could also ask why everyone has a boner against the Saudis and Qataris when talking about Man Citeh doing this as well?)

The 2nd question is easy to answer. If Man City win on this then the theory is that Newcastle would be able to quickly join them as a permanent top 2 and then who else would decide to joni the party, with Qatar being an obvious option. Alternatively, if Man City lose and take heavy punishments could they rally with SA and Qatar to create their own super league (which Saudi are already trying to do) where they invite clubs like Man City to join.

I think both are highly unlikely personally but I can understand why people are worried.

For the first question, these are people that have fully embraced the idea that a club that has won 6 of the last 7 titles are the victims here, understanding the difference between the Premier League and FA would clearly be beyond them.

 


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