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Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2805 on: June 06, 2024, 03:38:08 PM »
How would taking away their voting rights stop the, Influencing?
They have 1 out of 20 votes.
Citeh and thier owners crave to be legitimised
The PL have the ability to find them guilty and kick them out of the League and damage their credibility because this is what is at stake here, the sanctity of the PL as a legitimate competition or the rule by bullying and unfair competition.

Offline andyh

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2806 on: June 06, 2024, 03:45:32 PM »
You REALLY think they will kicked out of the league?? 😂

Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2807 on: June 06, 2024, 03:55:57 PM »
You REALLY think they will kicked out of the league?? 😂
No, but they should be relegated based on  precedence.
The other clubs need to realise they have a cuckoo in the nest and we know how that ends.
The PL have proved they are incompetent and useless at governance.
The only thing that would work would be a similar reaction to the ESL.

Offline SaddVillan

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2808 on: June 06, 2024, 03:58:41 PM »
You REALLY think they will kicked out of the league?? 😂
No, but they should be relegated based on  precedence.
The other clubs need to realise they have a cuckoo in the nest and we know how that ends.
The PL have proved they are incompetent and useless at governance.
The only thing that would work would be a similar reaction to the ESL.

It's a members club.

Abide by the rules as decided by the majority.

If you don't like them FUCK OFF.

Offline PaulWinch again

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2809 on: June 06, 2024, 04:00:00 PM »
John Percy saying our proposal to up the spending limit voted down….only 1 other voted with us

That’s mad - so does that mean we need to sell?

Offline Toronto Villa

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2810 on: June 06, 2024, 04:01:54 PM »
I want the PL to prove the tyranny of the majority bollocks they came out with and fuck them off to non league football. This is a massive moment for football in this country. Don't follow through on the genuine infractions they have been charged with and can be proven and the game itself is set back forever.

Offline chrisw1

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2811 on: June 06, 2024, 04:02:42 PM »
I think if we were trying to get it to count for this financial year, then you can understand why clubs voted against it.  But if it was for next season, what it the problem?

Offline SaddVillan

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2812 on: June 06, 2024, 04:03:47 PM »
John Percy saying our proposal to up the spending limit voted down….only 1 other voted with us
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That’s mad - so does that mean we need to sell?

We'll have planned for this as a potential outcome.

Looks like we're going to have to do some financial jiggery-pokery before June 30th to meet FFP/PSR rules

Either a player sale.

Or (and this is my bet) c.£40m hitting the bank account from Trade Nation, Adidas and Betano.

Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2813 on: June 06, 2024, 04:06:46 PM »
You REALLY think they will kicked out of the league?? 😂
No, but they should be relegated based on  precedence.
The other clubs need to realise they have a cuckoo in the nest and we know how that ends.
The PL have proved they are incompetent and useless at governance.
The only thing that would work would be a similar reaction to the ESL.

It's a members club.

Abide by the rules as decided by the majority.

If you don't like them FUCK OFF.
Agree, but the PL should have dealt with this months ago.
Here is the charge sheet, this I the date you have to submit your response.
Adjudication, sanction.

Offline ozzjim

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2814 on: June 06, 2024, 04:08:33 PM »
It appears they are trialing this new 85% anchoring model next season, but don't mention if you break the 105m but are inside the 85%, what happens? The whole thing is just designed to make sure United and Spurs are back in the top 6 and Villa, Newcastle and anyone else mildly ambitious can do one.

Offline Ads

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2815 on: June 06, 2024, 04:13:51 PM »
Our PSR rule change rejected. Booooo

Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2816 on: June 06, 2024, 04:15:58 PM »
The £105/85% needs a safety net where the smallest club’s income is linked to the biggest club.

A “one size fits all” approach will always protect those at the top. Some form of tapered  approach is needed so small clubs have the chance to become big clubs.

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Offline edgysatsuma89

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2818 on: June 06, 2024, 04:32:41 PM »
Give me strength more like. So many 'mays' so little time.

Offline pablo_picasso

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2819 on: June 06, 2024, 04:33:56 PM »
@villareport
🚨 It is understood that Villa co-owner, Nassef Sawiris, is close to City chairman Khaldoon Al Mubarak & that he shares frustrations over imposed limits on spending.
@MikeKeegan_DM
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If thats true, then that is me done completely with football.

I suppose I will have to wait & see how this all develops & where our flag is planted.

why would you be done with football if our owner is making a perfectly legitimate point or shares concerns about spending restrictions in the game. Nowhere does it say we are alogned with Man City on charges that they circuvented the rules to gain an advantage. He's not advocating breaking any rules to allow for expansion of the limits. Why shouldn't NSWE be allowed to spend as they see fit through legitimate sources on their combined sporting interests? Mainly us.

It will all depend on what we say or do going forward.

My connection to football is threadbare at best these days. I despise everything about the modern game.

The only connection I have left is Villa. I love Villa & have done for over forty years, but if we are going to be moving towards the direction of just being another Chelsea or ManC, with what we say or do, then I am done with it all.

Thats not me kicking off & looking for an excuse to exit because we are shit, because we aren't, I just don't want my club becoming anything like those clubs. Even if it is for the reason given called "progress".

But like I said, it will all depend on what we say or do going forward.
« Last Edit: June 06, 2024, 04:37:28 PM by pablo_picasso »

 


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