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Re: FFP
« Reply #2490 on: May 23, 2024, 01:45:42 PM »
On the one hand yes, it's a bollocks, but giving the Jaudis free reign could be any even bigger problem and allowing could encourage similar parties to get involved.

Plus, it emphasises even more the need for a top quality manager, staff and general set up, something we have in spades.

Offline pablo_picasso

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2491 on: May 23, 2024, 02:05:00 PM »
I don't agree with Martin Samuel often, but yes, he is!!  Imagine what we would be doing this window with no restrictions!

And while he is correct about the overall point, he still slips in nonsense like this;

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Only once have Villa had a higher Premier League finish than this, in the competition’s first season, 1992-93.

And yet, we have won the league title seven times, so that cant be true...

League football wasn't created with the fucking Premier League.

And we should know because we fucking created it.

Fat headed cockney melt...

Offline jwarry

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2492 on: May 23, 2024, 02:12:37 PM »
It’s so annoying because we are on the cusp, and of course the bastard clubs that took the piss are untouchable because of their crazy turnover - but - as some of us are saying we are in good hands because of our ownership and more importantly our manager.  Yanited and Chelsea are still in turmoil and 'The Mighty Reds YNWA', well who knows now - so astute recruiting can keep us up there

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2493 on: May 23, 2024, 02:16:17 PM »
I don't agree with Martin Samuel often, but yes, he is!!  Imagine what we would be doing this window with no restrictions!

And while he is correct about the overall point, he still slips in nonsense like this;

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Only once have Villa had a higher Premier League finish than this, in the competition’s first season, 1992-93.

And yet, we have won the league title seven times, so that cant be true...

League football wasn't created with the fucking Premier League.

And we should know because we fucking created it.

Fat headed cockney melt...


I think he’s pretty clear on what he means.

Offline pablo_picasso

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2494 on: May 23, 2024, 02:19:01 PM »
I know what he means, it just pisses me off when they say it.

Football existed before the Premier League.

Online LeeB

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2495 on: May 23, 2024, 02:20:22 PM »
I know what he means, it just pisses me off when they say it.

Football existed before the Premier League.

I just think it's a handy, era-defining timeframe in this case.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2496 on: May 23, 2024, 02:21:54 PM »
It’s the Premier League’s first season though - I’m not sure anyone isn’t aware that football did exist before then. But it’s true we haven’t finished higher than second since 1992 when the Premier League started.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2497 on: May 23, 2024, 02:26:09 PM »
On the one hand yes, it's a bollocks, but giving the Jaudis free reign could be any even bigger problem and allowing could encourage similar parties to get involved.

Plus, it emphasises even more the need for a top quality manager, staff and general set up, something we have in spades.

That's my take on it too. Yes, it's irritating that the rules mean we can't buy the 3 or 4 top class players we need for a proper tilt at Champions League, but allowing unlimited spending would reduce the advantages we currently have in Emery and his staff.

Offline paul_e

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2498 on: May 23, 2024, 02:31:17 PM »
On the one hand yes, it's a bollocks, but giving the Jaudis free reign could be any even bigger problem and allowing could encourage similar parties to get involved.

Plus, it emphasises even more the need for a top quality manager, staff and general set up, something we have in spades.

That's my take on it too. Yes, it's irritating that the rules mean we can't buy the 3 or 4 top class players we need for a proper tilt at Champions League, but allowing unlimited spending would reduce the advantages we currently have in Emery and his staff.

I understand the argument but any policy that support turning academies into talent farms is shit.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2499 on: May 23, 2024, 02:38:05 PM »
Yep that’s a flaw of the system, but the idea of some level of control makes sense. It just needs refining.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2500 on: May 23, 2024, 02:39:23 PM »
I know what he means, it just pisses me off when they say it.

Football existed before the Premier League.

I just think it's a handy, era-defining timeframe in this case.

I wonder how long it will be before they come up with a different cut-off ?

Having said that, in Baseball the term 'The Modern Era' is used when discussing records.
It means everything since 1901 :)

Offline ADVILLAFAN

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2501 on: May 23, 2024, 02:41:50 PM »
I know what he means, it just pisses me off when they say it.

Football existed before the Premier League.

I just think it's a handy, era-defining timeframe in this case.

I wonder how long it will be before they come up with a different cut-off ?

Having said that, in Baseball the term 'The Modern Era' is used when discussing records.
It means everything since 1901 :)

And Villa are the reigning English Professional Baseball Champions too.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2502 on: May 23, 2024, 02:57:08 PM »
Yep that’s a flaw of the system, but the idea of some level of control makes sense. It just needs refining.

I think caps are a better idea and better for the game in the long run but not tied solely to the revenue of individual clubs. The rewritten policy they're looking at starting for 25/26 is a big step in the right direction and just needs some tweaks to the specific figures to reduce the gap between the top and bottom of the league.

I'm also not completely against the idea of some sort of solidarity system where any spending above a certain threshold triggers payments to a fund that supports the welfare and competitiveness of the league, I'd like to see that for sponsorship and commercial revenue to an extent as well. If that could support things like improving academy standards and restricting ticket prices I think it would be great for the game in this country.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2503 on: May 23, 2024, 03:09:21 PM »
Just a small point of order we supported FFP when we weren’t part of the CL group because of the likes of the Sky six.

Offline pablo_picasso

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Re: FFP
« Reply #2504 on: May 23, 2024, 03:13:49 PM »
On the one hand yes, it's a bollocks, but giving the Jaudis free reign could be any even bigger problem and allowing could encourage similar parties to get involved.

Plus, it emphasises even more the need for a top quality manager, staff and general set up, something we have in spades.

That's my take on it too. Yes, it's irritating that the rules mean we can't buy the 3 or 4 top class players we need for a proper tilt at Champions League, but allowing unlimited spending would reduce the advantages we currently have in Emery and his staff.

I understand the argument but any policy that support turning academies into talent farms is shit.

Agreed. 100%.

 


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