FFP

[Dave]

Not sure I'd trust Simon Jordan's opinion on whether water was wet or not.

[Smithy]

There is no way they are getting a 40 point deduction - just listened to an interesting discussion with Simon Jordan about the charges, he claims that only 5 - 10 charges are relevant

I'm guessing what he means is that a huge number of those 115 charges are to do with "not complying" or "not co-operating" with the investigation, or providing complete information when it was requested.  It's not "here's 115 times Man City broke FFP spending limits".

I think they're charged with breaking the spending limit each year from 2015 to 2018, but then a large number of the charges are around HOW the breached the spending limit, such as not giving full details on how players/manager were paid (which might 20 instances, for example).

It's a bit like Trump facing 34 charges of fraud for the Stormy Daniels case, it all rests on one thing he did wrong, but then trying to hide it created lots of other potential offences.

[Somniloquism]

There is no way they are getting a 40 point deduction - just listened to an interesting discussion with Simon Jordan about the charges, he claims that only 5 - 10 charges are relevant

Makes a change from you believing the charges were about not supplying hot water to opposition players and leaving the grass too long which you "heard" previously I suppose.

[Simon Page]

This has probably been mentioned, but isn't the effect of the financial doping similar to Red Bull in F1. They broke the rules and got a slap, but that rule-breaking led to their current dominance for which they've received no punishment.

[LeeB]

This has probably been mentioned, but isn't the effect of the financial doping similar to Red Bull in F1. They broke the rules and got a slap, but that rule-breaking led to their current dominance for which they've received no punishment.

See also athletes that receive doping bans but then benefit for years after from their increased strength.

[kippaxvilla2]

As an aside I just read somewhere that our position in the league means we have earned £164.4m from PL and TV money this year.  It is only £4m behind Liverpool.  Taking last season's earnings, that is a rise of around £15m.

[john e]

I know he was a massive cheat and all that

But that Ben Johnson hundred metres was an unbelievable thing to watch and see at the time

[rob_bridge]

I know he was a massive cheat and all that

But that Ben Johnson hundred metres was an unbelievable thing to watch and see at the time

and under today's rules Calvin Smith is Olympic Champion

[Jon Crofts]

I know he was a massive cheat and all that

But that Ben Johnson hundred metres was an unbelievable thing to watch and see at the time

Same goes for Lying Lance, watching him climb mountains and blow everyone away was awe inspiring at the time.
That said his titles were all stripped, there's not a chance City get a points reduction let alone have titles and cups negated, absolutely zero.

[Percy McCarthy]

As an aside I just read somewhere that our position in the league means we have earned £164.4m from PL and TV money this year.  It is only £4m behind Liverpool.  Taking last season's earnings, that is a rise of around £15m.

There’s an extra £15m on the turnover. Add in a plus 30% rise in spectators and UECL prize and broadcast money and my feeling that we have hit a quarter of a billion this season is looking good. £300m next year I reckon.

[lovejoy]

I know he was a massive cheat and all that

But that Ben Johnson hundred metres was an unbelievable thing to watch and see at the time

Same goes for Lying Lance, watching him climb mountains and blow everyone away was awe inspiring at the time.
That said his titles were all stripped, there's not a chance City get a points reduction let alone have titles and cups negated, absolutely zero.

In the end the gave up giving the runners up in Lance's wins the glory as drug taking was so rife in cycling at the time it was difficult to find anyone clean!

[frank black]

As an aside I just read somewhere that our position in the league means we have earned £164.4m from PL and TV money this year.  It is only £4m behind Liverpool.  Taking last season's earnings, that is a rise of around £15m.

There’s an extra £15m on the turnover. Add in a plus 30% rise in spectators and UECL prize and broadcast money and my feeling that we have hit a quarter of a billion this season is looking good. £300m next year I reckon.

Only if they convince me to pay the upgrade for my seat, with an all you can eat finger buffet and bottomless beers.

[AV82EC]

As an aside I just read somewhere that our position in the league means we have earned £164.4m from PL and TV money this year.  It is only £4m behind Liverpool.  Taking last season's earnings, that is a rise of around £15m.

There’s an extra £15m on the turnover. Add in a plus 30% rise in spectators and UECL prize and broadcast money and my feeling that we have hit a quarter of a billion this season is looking good. £300m next year I reckon.

Strong agree and that projection for next year is pretty solid as well. If, and it is an if, we can do back to back UCL qualifications that will affect that turnover exponentially imv. If we’ve roughly achieved the first 5 year targets set by NSWE then it seems to me the next 5 years commercially should be about closing that turnover gap as much as possible to the rest of the bigger 6, hopefully the football side of things can deliver some silverware as well.

[Kevin Dawson]

Bottomless beers are crap. Every time you pour some beer into the glass it goes straight in your lap.

[OCD]

As an aside I just read somewhere that our position in the league means we have earned £164.4m from PL and TV money this year.  It is only £4m behind Liverpool.  Taking last season's earnings, that is a rise of around £15m.

There’s an extra £15m on the turnover. Add in a plus 30% rise in spectators and UECL prize and broadcast money and my feeling that we have hit a quarter of a billion this season is looking good. £300m next year I reckon.

£300m this year so I read.