FFP

[Dogtanian]

Another reason Kieran Maguire’s table is poor is because if you look at Chelsea, they don’t separate out ticket revenue from matchday revenue. So his figure for them is taking their whole ticket price, food / corporate, and matchday sponsorship and dividing that per fan, whereas with us it’s just ticket price.

[eamonn]

Can someone point this out to Maguire on Channel X? All this adulation is in danger of going to his head.

[tomd2103]

Another reason Kieran Maguire’s table is poor is because if you look at Chelsea, they don’t separate out ticket revenue from matchday revenue. So his figure for them is taking their whole ticket price, food / corporate, and matchday sponsorship and dividing that per fan, whereas with us it’s just ticket price.

Which makes that table pretty pointless then really.  Might explain why the Leeds figure was relatively high if they do the same?

[Mister E]

Interesting table from Kieran Maguire in this tweet:

https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/status/1774321633513091117

It shows the matchday revenue per head from all the then-Premier-League clubs (it's data from 2021-22). Villa predictably near the bottom of the table.

Sorry: I should have been more inquisitive about the numbers before posting; apples-and-pears analysis, it looks like.

[KevinGage]

You start to see why Heck is doing what he does when you look at those figures, but at the same time, you wonder why no new North Stand, as it's hard to see where he really manages to shift things (other than squeezing prices, and even that's going to have limited impact).

A new North Stand based on Purslow's plan only increases bums on seats by an extra 7000 or so.

A new Fred Rinder/ Ron Saunders stand with an improved corporate offering, where - for example - the current Doug Ellis sits = much more potential revenue.

[tomd2103]

Interesting table from Kieran Maguire in this tweet:

https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/status/1774321633513091117

It shows the matchday revenue per head from all the then-Premier-League clubs (it's data from 2021-22). Villa predictably near the bottom of the table.

Sorry: I should have been more inquisitive about the numbers before posting; apples-and-pears analysis, it looks like.

It's not on you at all mate.  Maguire should have provided a bit more explanation about it.

[Percy McCarthy]

Interesting table from Kieran Maguire in this tweet:

https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/status/1774321633513091117

It shows the matchday revenue per head from all the then-Premier-League clubs (it's data from 2021-22). Villa predictably near the bottom of the table.

Sorry: I should have been more inquisitive about the numbers before posting; apples-and-pears analysis, it looks like.

It's not on you at all mate.  Maguire should have provided a bit more explanation about it.

He puts about as much effort into analysing Villa’s finances as the majority of pundits put into analysing our play.

[Richard E]

Everton fans seem increasingly worried that they could end up in administration soon.

[pauliewalnuts]

Everton fans seem increasingly worried that they could end up in administration soon.

Good. Fingers crossed.

[pauliewalnuts]

Interesting table from Kieran Maguire in this tweet:

https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/status/1774321633513091117

It shows the matchday revenue per head from all the then-Premier-League clubs (it's data from 2021-22). Villa predictably near the bottom of the table.

Far be it for me to question accounts-skimmer and Football Insider advisor Keiran Maguire, but why is he posting data on 2021-22 when the accounts of 2022-23 are available? Also, if we’ve averaged only £18 per match per fan, is this excluding ticket price? I’m paying more than £18 a game…

Yes, I’ve pointed out the inaccuracy of his figures on here before and been told in no uncertain terms that he is the all-seeing eye.

That's not the way it looks to me. Figures from swiss ramble.

Chelsea - 2021-22

Matchday - 69m
Broadcasting - 235m
Commercial - 177m

Played - 30 home matches, 30 * 40,000 = 1,200,000 punters

69,000,000 / 1,200,000 = £57.5 per customer.

What are they putting somewhere we don't put it?

Our corresponding figures are also split between match day, broadcasting and commercial.

Not sure what they're doing any different here?

[pauliewalnuts]

PAGING RISSO PAGING RISSO

[Percy McCarthy]

Everton fans seem increasingly worried that they could end up in administration soon.

Ooh good. I love their Blue Room podcast when they’re in crisis, great for a bit of misery tourism.

[Dogtanian]

Interesting table from Kieran Maguire in this tweet:

https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/status/1774321633513091117

It shows the matchday revenue per head from all the then-Premier-League clubs (it's data from 2021-22). Villa predictably near the bottom of the table.

Far be it for me to question accounts-skimmer and Football Insider advisor Keiran Maguire, but why is he posting data on 2021-22 when the accounts of 2022-23 are available? Also, if we’ve averaged only £18 per match per fan, is this excluding ticket price? I’m paying more than £18 a game…

Yes, I’ve pointed out the inaccuracy of his figures on here before and been told in no uncertain terms that he is the all-seeing eye.

That's not the way it looks to me. Figures from swiss ramble.

Chelsea - 2021-22

Matchday - 69m
Broadcasting - 235m
Commercial - 177m

Played - 30 home matches, 30 * 40,000 = 1,200,000 punters

69,000,000 / 1,200,000 = £57.5 per customer.

What are they putting somewhere we don't put it?

Our corresponding figures are also split between match day, broadcasting and commercial.

Not sure what they're doing any different here?

No, our revenue is split between gate receipts, broadcasting , sponsorship, and commercial. And in the notes it clearly says it is only ticket sales in gate receipts, and all other revenue goes to commercial.

So the £18.7m is not our matchday revenue, it’s our gate. Chelsea specifically report matchday revenue, but don’t tell us their gate receipts.

So you literally can’t compare the two figures.

[pauliewalnuts]

Interesting table from Kieran Maguire in this tweet:

https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/status/1774321633513091117

It shows the matchday revenue per head from all the then-Premier-League clubs (it's data from 2021-22). Villa predictably near the bottom of the table.

Far be it for me to question accounts-skimmer and Football Insider advisor Keiran Maguire, but why is he posting data on 2021-22 when the accounts of 2022-23 are available? Also, if we’ve averaged only £18 per match per fan, is this excluding ticket price? I’m paying more than £18 a game…

Yes, I’ve pointed out the inaccuracy of his figures on here before and been told in no uncertain terms that he is the all-seeing eye.

That's not the way it looks to me. Figures from swiss ramble.

Chelsea - 2021-22

Matchday - 69m
Broadcasting - 235m
Commercial - 177m

Played - 30 home matches, 30 * 40,000 = 1,200,000 punters

69,000,000 / 1,200,000 = £57.5 per customer.

What are they putting somewhere we don't put it?

Our corresponding figures are also split between match day, broadcasting and commercial.

Not sure what they're doing any different here?

No, our revenue is split between gate receipts, broadcasting , sponsorship, and commercial. And in the notes it clearly says it is only ticket sales in gate receipts, and all other revenue goes to commercial.

So the £18.7m is not our matchday revenue, it’s our gate. Chelsea specifically report matchday revenue, but don’t tell us their gate receipts.

So you literally can’t compare the two figures.

Where did you read that? Out of interest - not being contrary, I have no dog in this race, just interested.

[Dogtanian]

It’s on page 28 of our last accounts, and the notes underneath.

Chelsea’s report isn’t clear what they do and don’t include, but that they call it matchday revenue suggests their figure isn’t just the ticket sales.