FFP

[Sexual Ealing]

I think an attitude of 'fuck it. We'll just take the deduction because we're brilliant now we've made new signings' would ensure a deduction of much more than 6 points.

[chrisw1]

Fuck it. Go all out for chumps league next season, accept a points deduction and just start behind everyone else.

Everton's 10 point deduction in the Autumn was for the period ending 21/22 wasn't it, so more than a season after?

It was, but they're now ensuring it will kick in the following season - that's why any punishment for Everton & Forest will kick this season for FFP y/e 23, although farcically the clubs may not know the outcome until after the season has ended.  If people thinks VAR impacts on goal celebtrations, wait until the end of the season when 5-6 clubs will have no idea what they need from their last game to stay up. 

[Dave]

Chelsea have brought in an insane amount of money from selling home grown players in recent years, though. I think they are alright for now, but pretty soon if they fail more than once to reach the champions league, or fail to find a home grown gem to sell, they're going to have problems.

The issue that they have with those eight year contracts is that to maintain their financial health they need to find an Abraham / Tomori / Mount / Guehi or two every season for the next decade.

And when you find yoursel as mediocre as Chelsea currently are, anything that they find like that is going to be going straight into the first team. Hopefully their commercial clout starts to dry up soon too, leaving them properly buggered.

Yeah. It'll be Gallagher this year, but then you do wonder at what point they run out of 'runway' like this.

They must be gutted that Reece James seems to be made out of papier-mâché. Levi Colwill would keep things afloat for another season. After that, it's pretty thin gruel.

Edit - they're also getting £30m from Newcastle in the summer for Lewis Hall to add to whatever they get for Gallagher.

[Somniloquism]

They'll sell Gallagher this summer for a decent fee, and that'll float it all for a bit longer.

They got 50 million for Mount because Man Utd were mugs. I can't see them getting anymore then 30mil for Gallagher at a push. Depending on how young they are bought before they become "free" money (Colwill, Chilwell were purchased from other clubs), the only other cash-in who came through their ranks is Reece James, but being as he has had to have surgery to fix a hamstring issue, I don't see him bringing in that much.

[Drummond]

I think an attitude of 'fuck it. We'll just take the deduction because we're brilliant now we've made new signings' would ensure a deduction of much more than 6 points.

Obviously you wouldn't say that out loud, but it's got to be part of the discussion internally

[Dave]

(Colwill, Chilwell were purchased from other clubs)

According to Wikipedia Colwill's been at Chelsea since he joined their under-nines.

[PeterWithe]

I think I'd be uncomfortable with an attitude of 'fuck the rules' we signed up for, to go along with my discomfort at losing such a huge sum of money, I hope those funding us, and all the others, don't get bored any time soon.

[Drummond]

Rather than fuck the rules, I think it's more a case of fuck it, let's play with the rules and accept the penalty. Much as a player takes a chance when they are the last man and know they could get sent off but save the game.

[Sexual Ealing]

I think an attitude of 'fuck it. We'll just take the deduction because we're brilliant now we've made new signings' would ensure a deduction of much more than 6 points.

Obviously you wouldn't say that out loud, but it's got to be part of the discussion internally

You wouldn't need to say in out loud. It'd be obvious what we'd be doing. I don't want us to be that club.

[ChicagoLion]

Selling a player is a lot less drastic than falling foul of the rules.

[darren woolley]

I just hope fingers crossed everything turns out ok.

[Somniloquism]

(Colwill, Chilwell were purchased from other clubs)

According to Wikipedia Colwill's been at Chelsea since he joined their under-nines.

Yes, getting my will's, wells confused together. (Thought I had the one transfer page up and had the other, checked someone elses then came back and chose Chilwell again).

[Dave]

Given these are Premier League rules, and the clubs that make up the Premier League decide jointly what the rules should be, isn't the most likely scenario here that the clubs between them decide that the current rules are too prohibitive and at some point in the next couple of years they're relaxed?

Before I'm guessing that some of the richer clubs were happy to restrict the likes of us and Newcastle, but with the likes of ManYoo, Chelsea, Arsenal etc suddenly finding themselves on the other side of that divide you'd think they'll find 14 clubs who would prefer not to have to sell youth team players every year?

[ChicagoLion]

Given these are Premier League rules, and the clubs that make up the Premier League decide jointly what the rules should be, isn't the most likely scenario here that the clubs between them decide that the current rules are too prohibitive and at some point in the next couple of years they're relaxed?

Before I'm guessing that some of the richer clubs were happy to restrict the likes of us and Newcastle, but with the likes of ManYoo, Chelsea, Arsenal etc suddenly finding themselves on the other side of that divide you'd think they'll find 14 clubs who would prefer not to have to sell youth team players every year?

Agree, it is a poor way of trying to govern the games excesses.
And I doubt they are far off getting 14 clubs to agree.

[Risso]

I think an attitude of 'fuck it. We'll just take the deduction because we're brilliant now we've made new signings' would ensure a deduction of much more than 6 points.

Obviously you wouldn't say that out loud, but it's got to be part of the discussion internally

Paddy's right, Everton only had their penalty reduced because they were not seen as trying to take the piss. I reckon if it was obvious that a team was borderline non-compliant and then went out and spent a £100m or whatever anyway in a "to hell with the consequences" way, they'd be looking at 12 points plus being deducted. Unless it's Man City, obviously.