FFP

[Nev]

This is all over the back pages, seems odd because we don't get that level of media coverage but then it is International Week I suppose. It does strike me that this is a deliberate ploy by the club, in agreeing to the interview with the Athletic and it's amplification elsewhere, to shine a light on how ludicrous the situation we find ourselves in, is.

Not that I can see it making any difference...

Ah, now I see why.

[purpletrousers]

This is all over the back pages, seems odd because we don't get that level of media coverage but then it is International Week I suppose. It does strike me that this is a deliberate ploy by the club, in agreeing to the interview with the Athletic and it's amplification elsewhere, to shine a light on how ludicrous the situation we find ourselves in, is.

Not that I can see it making any difference...

Ah, now I see why.

Hmm. Unless they are playing a very interesting hand to deliberately shock everyone, flag up the unfairness of FFP and then roll the prices back, this is a cock up.

It's a cock up.

[Dante Lavelli]

The infrastructure costs don't count. I've never seen anything about we can ignore the revenue loss of the work though but glad to be proven wrong. And how do you decide the loss? For example the NS now probably produces more revenue then it did last season.

Maybe that is part of the Heck masterplan.  Get the revenue per seat up as high as possible then when we lose a stand the ‘allowable offset’ is a decent figure rather than based on the original numbers.

[Villan82]

I hope we have a climb down. Shave £20 quid off the season ticket prices and £40 off the non-ST.

Nice to be on your side in a debate again!

But this was always the risk when they pulled the plug on the new stand. If more bums on seats was no longer the answer medium term then they were always going to attempt to squeeze more out of what is there. It isn't nice.

[Smithy]

Tens of thousands of people just paid £355 for an Oasis ticket, when they thought they were queuing for one at half that price.  Much as I hate it, I suspect we'll have no trouble at all selling them all at those prices.

Personally, I'm WAAAAY down the list in terms of being able to qualify to buy one, and I'd snap your hand off tomorrow if I was able to get one.

[Mister E]

Maybe that is part of the Heck masterplan.  Get the revenue per seat up as high as possible then when we lose a stand the ‘allowable offset’ is a decent figure rather than based on the original numbers.

Yes, I think this could be part of the thinking.
However, the effect could be seen at the Arse game where the GA+ areas were punctuated by a fair few empty seats; not a good look and wasteful for people who do actually want to go to the game.
Heck & Co are clearly trying to maximise this current period of high demand: the risk is that a couple of mediocre seasons will see the whole edifice come tumbling down, and the degree of goodwill amongst the core of our support will be at such a low ebb that we could spiral downwards. He'll be operating on short-term objectives, which is why he's driving a medium-to-high risk approach on pricing. The club would probably be better-served with an approach which rewards the core support and yet still maximises revenue from the occasional visitor.

[Demitri_C]

Could we do a sponserhip deal for one of the stands or training ground? E.g cadburys heath

Is that allowed with FFP?

Even if we are good for FFP next season with CL money what happens season after of we are are not in CL?

the system punishes you for being in the Cl it seems as you have to pay more for better players but if u dnt have the CL money you are fucked. Im pretty sure eventually this is all going to fall apart

[Risso]

Apparently we've just been fined 60K by UEFA for submitting our financial information late.

[PeterWithesShin]

Rinse a couple of thousand out of disabled fans, waste 60K with UEFA. Top work everyone.

[Percy McCarthy]

Apparently we've just been fined 60K by UEFA for submitting our financial information late.

Some real complicated cooking going on with these books of ours isn’t there mate?

Selling the youth for PSR, while discarding the deadwood for SCR. Seems to me like cancelling contracts (Courinho, Donk) would solve the latter but adversely impact the former with crystallised losses.

[Demitri_C]

Apparently we've just been fined 60K by UEFA for submitting our financial information late.

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Yeah its legit its on sky sports  wtf is going on at our club

[purpletrousers]

Rinse a couple of thousand out of disabled fans, waste 60K with UEFA. Top work everyone.

That was exactly my thought. Cause suffering, either £ hardship, loss of being able to go or possibly physical suffering from parking elsewhere, the drop X times the amount by being disorganised. Proud to be a Villa fan. Until recently.

[Sdwbvf]

That would be for each match as well. So x4 that's 1.4 million per £10  reduction. Or, if you like, the prices are 30 quid higher than expected, so that's 4.2 million extra revenue. Then another 1.4 million per round in the knockout.

[Dogtanian]

If the financial year ends in June, would it be normal for a £200-300m company to have finalised its accounts by August?

I guess it depends how much info they have to submit.

[Zouch Villa]

If the financial year ends in June, would it be normal for a £200-300m company to have finalised its accounts by August?

I guess it depends how much info they have to submit.

Absolutely.

Us bean counters like to make sure things are as accurate as possible, so its not unusual for accounts to take 6-9 months to finalise.  Particularly when there may be various judgements/treatments that require close scrutiny of an auditor.