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Re: FFP
« Reply #3600 on: September 04, 2024, 02:03:15 PM »
There is no doubt that relaxing the rules would allow Newcastle immediately the ability to outspend everyone. But that’s the huge mistake made by the PL. To allow essentially a sovereign state to own a team. Nobody can compete with that. The owners of Newcastle if allowed to spend as they wish cannot really make expensive mistakes in the market because their wealth would mask all of it.

It was hard enough as it was to compete with extremely rich individuals, but even they have limits and generally aren't rich without being smart enough. Qatar and Saudi, desperate to be relevant, to be brash and bold and be and have the best of everything, don't give a shit who they trample on, or even kill, to get there. And our league has sold out to them, our previous government did the same.

We just can't afford to let them do it.

Whilst there is an imbalance between us and others (and let's not deny it, when there have been many discussions on here about the rights of other, smaller teams) it's nowhere near the difference between us and the sovereign states.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3601 on: September 04, 2024, 02:06:32 PM »
Something in that message as well that apparently out of Kamara, Buendia, Mings and Ramsey, three of them are are on the highest wages. I can understand Kamara as he was a freebie and so we could pay more as no purchase fee, but surprised a player from Norwich and one from Bournemouth are up there. Of course they might be more middling but were being shown that they still cost against FFP/PSR even when not playing. TBH, I'm surprised there isn't an injury ruling to some extent.

Well, Buendia was our record signing at the time and had had interest from Arsenal. Mings might have come from Bournemouth but since then has had two contract extensions to reflect his true worth to the team.

And was our captain too of course. Kamara was on a free, and his wages will be really high. you can bet that Ramsey will negotiate himself a big contract when it's due as well.

Offline Paul.S

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3602 on: September 04, 2024, 02:19:32 PM »
Did anyone catch the discussion on TS this morning.
I caught the bit where it mentions Manure getting special concessions for Covid costs and Radcliffe investment costs.
They also mentioned us and the guy/expert reckons we will have a £100m deficit to sort out by June next year. So far we’ve found £25m from player trading
I assume this does not take account of CL money, increased gate receipts and the new adidas deal.

I heard it a while ago and he reckons the CL money and sponsorship deals would see us over the line next year. There is no way clubs like ours and Newcastle can sustain a challenge for regular CL football. Both clubs have the money but cannot spend it.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3603 on: September 04, 2024, 02:33:54 PM »
Selling one/some of Enzo, Bogarde, Philogene and Illing-Junior will also be in the mix too.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3604 on: September 04, 2024, 02:35:44 PM »
Having said all that if we do move eventually and having seen the signing off of a tunnel that looks like a 70’s brothel please don’t put him in charge of any design decisions :-)

..unless of course we open a brothels?

Should definitely increase revenues.

'Per head' revenue can be looked at differently.

Offline Sexual Ealing

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3605 on: September 04, 2024, 02:40:55 PM »
Having said all that if we do move eventually and having seen the signing off of a tunnel that looks like a 70’s brothel please don’t put him in charge of any design decisions :-)

..unless of course we open a brothels?

Should definitely increase revenues.

'Per head' revenue can be looked at differently.

Especially if we're recording it double-entry.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3606 on: September 04, 2024, 02:46:32 PM »
Having said all that if we do move eventually and having seen the signing off of a tunnel that looks like a 70’s brothel please don’t put him in charge of any design decisions :-)

..unless of course we open a brothels?

Should definitely increase revenues.

'Per head' revenue can be looked at differently.

Heck would need to learn pretty quickly what a nice tunnel should look like, though.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3607 on: September 04, 2024, 02:47:51 PM »
Those prices most definatley are a cock up.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3608 on: September 04, 2024, 03:02:11 PM »
I hope we have a climb down. Shave £20 quid off the season ticket prices and £40 off the non-ST.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3609 on: September 04, 2024, 04:00:24 PM »
They will still sell the ground out.

There will be plenty of people who aren’t even Villa supporters who would fork out that sort of money to see a decent PL side play Bayern and Juventus.

I think that’s what is pissing me off the most.

Yeah, screw a decent amount of money out of the ST holders but then, the extra tickets, let’s not make it accessible for the match by match attenders, let’s just go for anyone willing to stump up that amount.

It’s a proper kick in the bollocks. It won’t even generate that much extra cash in the bigger picture.

Offline astonvilla82

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3610 on: September 04, 2024, 04:11:12 PM »
Even worse made by the fact that away support only gets charged £50,

Offline Pat Mustard

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3611 on: September 04, 2024, 04:14:16 PM »
They will still sell the ground out.

There will be plenty of people who aren’t even Villa supporters who would fork out that sort of money to see a decent PL side play Bayern and Juventus.

I think that’s what is pissing me off the most.

Yeah, screw a decent amount of money out of the ST holders but then, the extra tickets, let’s not make it accessible for the match by match attenders, let’s just go for anyone willing to stump up that amount.

It’s a proper kick in the bollocks. It won’t even generate that much extra cash in the bigger picture.

CL games will sell out, but the potential knock on effect will see thfousands of empty seats at some league games - it's become an either/or for us as a family, and I want to know where the people to replace us will be when we decide not to go to Bournemouth, Brentford etc.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3612 on: September 04, 2024, 04:15:28 PM »
Yeah they wanted us when we were shit and plenty were there. I get it's going to be more expensive, but £436 for me and my lad to do all 4 at home? Fuck off you ******.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3613 on: September 04, 2024, 04:17:41 PM »
Even worse made by the fact that away support only gets charged £50,

I do wonder if the £10 got added to all the prices jut after UEFA changed the ruling to drop almost that from away fans.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3614 on: September 04, 2024, 04:37:00 PM »
Quick maths shows the club would lose £350k for every £10 they reduced the price by.

At what point is it too much revenue to lose? £1m £4m? £6m?

Modern football is rubbish.

 


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