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[Percy McCarthy]

I think we’d make more than £20m from winning the Conference League. I’m pretty sure West Ham did.

Was around £12m total prize money that West Ham won. Plus all the extra match-day income etc.

There was a thing where UEFA broke down winnings/TV money allocated. There was an entry that said something like UECL money allocated to English clubs - which was only West Ham of course - €20-something million.

[paul_e]

But then being in the Champs league would be closer to 50m you would expect. I'm pretty sure the figure bandied around for Newcastle was about 35Mil, but that is two less games and I'm assuming the new format has higher pay. And 2 more games if we make the top 24 as well.

Yep, and the comment that started this was about turnover not prize money so I don't think it's unreasonable to assume everything should be included.

[pauliewalnuts]

I think we’d make more than £20m from winning the Conference League. I’m pretty sure West Ham did.

Was around £12m total prize money that West Ham won. Plus all the extra match-day income etc.

There was thing where UEFA broke down winnings/TV money allocated. There was an entry that said something like UECL money allocated to English clubs - which was only West Ham of course - €20-something million.

It was definitely around 12m, no more than that, remember reading it.

[Dave]

I think we’d make more than £20m from winning the Conference League. I’m pretty sure West Ham did.

Was around £12m total prize money that West Ham won. Plus all the extra match-day income etc.

There was thing where UEFA broke down winnings/TV money allocated. There was an entry that said something like UECL money allocated to English clubs - which was only West Ham of course - €20-something million.

It was definitely around 12m, no more than that, remember reading it.

While I was Googling to find something as authoritative as possible, I came across one particularly egregious bit of click-bait along the lines of "Conference League final worth £15m prize money for West Ham"

small print - "because if they win that means they qualify for the Europa League next season which they'll get around £13m from"

[Percy McCarthy]

I think we’d make more than £20m from winning the Conference League. I’m pretty sure West Ham did.

Was around £12m total prize money that West Ham won. Plus all the extra match-day income etc.

There was thing where UEFA broke down winnings/TV money allocated. There was an entry that said something like UECL money allocated to English clubs - which was only West Ham of course - €20-something million.

It was definitely around 12m, no more than that, remember reading it.

Yeah, I remember reading what I mentioned as well.

[Sexual Ealing]

I think we’d make more than £20m from winning the Conference League. I’m pretty sure West Ham did.

Was around £12m total prize money that West Ham won. Plus all the extra match-day income etc.

There was thing where UEFA broke down winnings/TV money allocated. There was an entry that said something like UECL money allocated to English clubs - which was only West Ham of course - €20-something million.

It was definitely around 12m, no more than that, remember reading it.

Yeah, I remember reading what I mentioned as well.

lol

[pauliewalnuts]

I think we’d make more than £20m from winning the Conference League. I’m pretty sure West Ham did.

Was around £12m total prize money that West Ham won. Plus all the extra match-day income etc.

There was thing where UEFA broke down winnings/TV money allocated. There was an entry that said something like UECL money allocated to English clubs - which was only West Ham of course - €20-something million.

It was definitely around 12m, no more than that, remember reading it.

Yeah, I remember reading what I mentioned as well.

Congratulations.

[Percy McCarthy]

I think we’d make more than £20m from winning the Conference League. I’m pretty sure West Ham did.

Was around £12m total prize money that West Ham won. Plus all the extra match-day income etc.

There was thing where UEFA broke down winnings/TV money allocated. There was an entry that said something like UECL money allocated to English clubs - which was only West Ham of course - €20-something million.

It was definitely around 12m, no more than that, remember reading it.

Yeah, I remember reading what I mentioned as well.

Congratulations.

Thanks. They got £13m in prize money alone. The stat I read included broadcast income on top. But not extra payments from sponsors, and not gate receipts. Maybe all that added up to minus £1,000,000.

[pauliewalnuts]

I think we’d make more than £20m from winning the Conference League. I’m pretty sure West Ham did.

Was around £12m total prize money that West Ham won. Plus all the extra match-day income etc.

There was thing where UEFA broke down winnings/TV money allocated. There was an entry that said something like UECL money allocated to English clubs - which was only West Ham of course - €20-something million.

It was definitely around 12m, no more than that, remember reading it.

Yeah, I remember reading what I mentioned as well.

Congratulations.

Thanks. They got £13m in prize money alone. The stat I read included broadcast income on top. But not extra payments from sponsors, and not gate receipts. Maybe all that added up to minus £1,000,000.

God almighty, why on earth are you getting so snipey these days.

Chill the fuck out, why not.

[Smithy]

The reality is, we've no idea how much Champions League would actually be worth to us - but I'll bet the club has a pretty good idea.

We can work out the prize money we'll earn easily enough from results (could be anything from £20m to £50m I guess), but all the extra commercial revenue? Who knows.  There'll be full houses at VP (with the new exec seating options probably). I would imagine most of our sponsors have some sort of clause that means they pay more if we're in the Champions League. There could be some entirely new sponsors for the Champions League games. There is the extra sales of shirts and other stuff that simply comes from being successful on the pitch and in the world's biggest club competition. The new Adidas deal might have some extra performance-related bonuses.  Not to mention all the new fans (and their £) that we'll attract from the local area who'll have their head turned by us playing in the Champions League, but who might not have been bothered when we were in the Championship.

It all adds up.

[pauliewalnuts]

Apparently three clubs voted against this spending cap move today - Man United, Man City and us.

Why would we be against that, I wonder?

[Percy McCarthy]

I think we’d make more than £20m from winning the Conference League. I’m pretty sure West Ham did.

Was around £12m total prize money that West Ham won. Plus all the extra match-day income etc.

There was thing where UEFA broke down winnings/TV money allocated. There was an entry that said something like UECL money allocated to English clubs - which was only West Ham of course - €20-something million.

It was definitely around 12m, no more than that, remember reading it.

Yeah, I remember reading what I mentioned as well.

Congratulations.

Thanks. They got £13m in prize money alone. The stat I read included broadcast income on top. But not extra payments from sponsors, and not gate receipts. Maybe all that added up to minus £1,000,000.

God almighty, why on earth are you getting so snipey these days.

Chill the fuck out, why not.

Your congratulations were snipey.

Chill the fuck out.

[Dave]

Apparently three clubs voted against this spending cap move today - Man United, Man City and us.

Why would we be against that, I wonder?

https://x.com/K__AVFC/status/1784958583366389906?s=09

This thread explains why we may have voted against it.

In summary, PL teams can spend loads to get into Europe, but the ones in Europe already can't because of the UEFA FFP rules. So in theory, we're in Europe so can't spend next season. Newcastle, if they don't get in, can spend a shitload if cash without penalty for the season until they get in.

Makes it harder for us to stay  in Europe basically.

[pauliewalnuts]

Apparently three clubs voted against this spending cap move today - Man United, Man City and us.

Why would we be against that, I wonder?

https://x.com/K__AVFC/status/1784958583366389906?s=09

This thread explains why we may have voted against it.

In summary, PL teams can spend loads to get into Europe, but the ones in Europe already can't because of the UEFA FFP rules. So in theory, we're in Europe so can't spend next season. Newcastle, if they don't get in, can spend a shitload if cash without penalty for the season until they get in.

Makes it harder for us to stay  in Europe basically.

Ah, thanks.

Jesus, though, what a fucking shitshow this whole subject is.

[Percy McCarthy]

Apparently three clubs voted against this spending cap move today - Man United, Man City and us.

Why would we be against that, I wonder?

https://x.com/K__AVFC/status/1784958583366389906?s=09

This thread explains why we may have voted against it.

In summary, PL teams can spend loads to get into Europe, but the ones in Europe already can't because of the UEFA FFP rules. So in theory, we're in Europe so can't spend next season. Newcastle, if they don't get in, can spend a shitload if cash without penalty for the season until they get in.

Makes it harder for us to stay  in Europe basically.

According to Sky, an 85% of revenue limit for clubs not in Europe will apply.

As one of the replies to the thread states, ‘you’ve spent all day on this thread and it’s completely wrong’.