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Offline Hookeysmith

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Re: FFP
« Reply #150 on: November 18, 2023, 03:21:03 PM »
Nothing will happen to City or Chelsea.

And the saddest part is we all know it as well does the FA spineless wankers

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Re: FFP
« Reply #151 on: November 18, 2023, 03:34:47 PM »
On this day in 2011 Citeh announced losses of £197 million. Quite the turnaround in fortunes don't you think.
Chelsea posted losses of £200m in their last accounts
You can lose money as a club, and more than the FFP amounts, but not on players/playing costs.  For example, I think all the money we're ploughing to the ground and the new academy buildings will cost us loads, but they aren't included in the FFP calculations.
Yeah but how can Chelsea spend £800m on new players when they are losing £200m per annum as a business

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Re: FFP
« Reply #152 on: November 18, 2023, 03:37:44 PM »
The thing is they’ve now set a marker with Everton. And what Everton have been charged with doing pales into insignificance compared to what is alleged against Chelsea let alone Man City. That’s where I think the PL will fail. Because if you give Everton a 10 point penalty then the consequences for the other two should be so much greater. They won’t have the stomach to pull that trigger and the penalty in all likelihood will be considerably less. Because, for the PL, let’s face it, having Chelsea and Man City as part of it is far more profitable than not.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #153 on: November 18, 2023, 05:41:24 PM »
On this day in 2011 Citeh announced losses of £197 million. Quite the turnaround in fortunes don't you think.
Chelsea posted losses of £200m in their last accounts
You can lose money as a club, and more than the FFP amounts, but not on players/playing costs.  For example, I think all the money we're ploughing to the ground and the new academy buildings will cost us loads, but they aren't included in the FFP calculations.
Yeah but how can Chelsea spend £800m on new players when they are losing £200m per annum as a business
Because they have enough cash to do so.

Offline pauliewalnuts

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Re: FFP
« Reply #154 on: November 18, 2023, 05:45:27 PM »
On this day in 2011 Citeh announced losses of £197 million. Quite the turnaround in fortunes don't you think.
Chelsea posted losses of £200m in their last accounts
You can lose money as a club, and more than the FFP amounts, but not on players/playing costs.  For example, I think all the money we're ploughing to the ground and the new academy buildings will cost us loads, but they aren't included in the FFP calculations.
Yeah but how can Chelsea spend £800m on new players when they are losing £200m per annum as a business
Because they have enough cash to do so.

And because they amortise the costs appropriately.

Offline Chris Harte

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Re: FFP
« Reply #155 on: November 18, 2023, 05:54:57 PM »
On this day in 2011 Citeh announced losses of £197 million. Quite the turnaround in fortunes don't you think.
Chelsea posted losses of £200m in their last accounts
You can lose money as a club, and more than the FFP amounts, but not on players/playing costs.  For example, I think all the money we're ploughing to the ground and the new academy buildings will cost us loads, but they aren't included in the FFP calculations.
Yeah but how can Chelsea spend £800m on new players when they are losing £200m per annum as a business
Because they have enough cash to do so.

And because they amortise the costs appropriately.
Don't they give their new signings eight year contracts so they can spread the payments over the same period?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #156 on: November 18, 2023, 06:01:52 PM »
On this day in 2011 Citeh announced losses of £197 million. Quite the turnaround in fortunes don't you think.
Chelsea posted losses of £200m in their last accounts
You can lose money as a club, and more than the FFP amounts, but not on players/playing costs.  For example, I think all the money we're ploughing to the ground and the new academy buildings will cost us loads, but they aren't included in the FFP calculations.
Yeah but how can Chelsea spend £800m on new players when they are losing £200m per annum as a business
Because they have enough cash to do so.

And because they amortise the costs appropriately.
Don't they give their new signings eight year contracts so they can spread the payments over the same period?
Yes it’s called amortisation

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Re: FFP
« Reply #157 on: November 18, 2023, 06:02:59 PM »
On this day in 2011 Citeh announced losses of £197 million. Quite the turnaround in fortunes don't you think.
Chelsea posted losses of £200m in their last accounts
You can lose money as a club, and more than the FFP amounts, but not on players/playing costs.  For example, I think all the money we're ploughing to the ground and the new academy buildings will cost us loads, but they aren't included in the FFP calculations.
Yeah but how can Chelsea spend £800m on new players when they are losing £200m per annum as a business
Because they have enough cash to do so.

And because they amortise the costs appropriately.
Don't they give their new signings eight year contracts so they can spread the payments over the same period?
Just sounds like accountants fudging the books , in a similar vein to the way large corporations employ aggressive tax avoidance tactics
« Last Edit: November 18, 2023, 06:08:51 PM by VillaTim »

Offline Chris Harte

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Re: FFP
« Reply #158 on: November 18, 2023, 06:06:26 PM »
On this day in 2011 Citeh announced losses of £197 million. Quite the turnaround in fortunes don't you think.
Chelsea posted losses of £200m in their last accounts
You can lose money as a club, and more than the FFP amounts, but not on players/playing costs.  For example, I think all the money we're ploughing to the ground and the new academy buildings will cost us loads, but they aren't included in the FFP calculations.
Yeah but how can Chelsea spend £800m on new players when they are losing £200m per annum as a business
Because they have enough cash to do so.

And because they amortise the costs appropriately.
Don't they give their new signings eight year contracts so they can spread the payments over the same period?
Yes it’s called amortisation
I thought that was what Paulie was getting at.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #159 on: November 18, 2023, 06:34:16 PM »
Don't they give their new signings eight year contracts so they can spread the payments over the same period?

Just sounds like accountants fudging the books , in a similar vein to the way large corporations employ aggressive tax avoidance tactics

I've yet to meet anyone who asked me to arrange it for them to pay more tax.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #160 on: November 18, 2023, 07:14:10 PM »
Don't they give their new signings eight year contracts so they can spread the payments over the same period?

Just sounds like accountants fudging the books , in a similar vein to the way large corporations employ aggressive tax avoidance tactics

I've yet to meet anyone who asked me to arrange it for them to pay more tax.
eh ? Aggresive tax avoidance = less tax . If it doesn't fire your accountant

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Re: FFP
« Reply #161 on: November 18, 2023, 07:21:35 PM »
Don't they give their new signings eight year contracts so they can spread the payments over the same period?

Just sounds like accountants fudging the books , in a similar vein to the way large corporations employ aggressive tax avoidance tactics

I've yet to meet anyone who asked me to arrange it for them to pay more tax.
eh ? Aggresive tax avoidance = less tax . If it doesn't fire your accountant

That's what he's saying to you, Tim.

There is nothing wrong with amortisation, all businesses do it, it is standard business practice.

Just for clarity, we're answering the following question. Which you asked.

Yeah but how can Chelsea spend £800m on new players when they are losing £200m per annum as a business
« Last Edit: November 18, 2023, 07:24:04 PM by pauliewalnuts »

Offline VillaTim

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Re: FFP
« Reply #162 on: November 18, 2023, 07:25:29 PM »
Don't they give their new signings eight year contracts so they can spread the payments over the same period?

Just sounds like accountants fudging the books , in a similar vein to the way large corporations employ aggressive tax avoidance tactics

I've yet to meet anyone who asked me to arrange it for them to pay more tax.
eh ? Aggresive tax avoidance = less tax . If it doesn't fire your accountant

That's what he's saying to you, Tim.

There is nothing wrong with amortisation, all businesses do it, it is standard business practice.

Just for clarity, we're answering the following question. Which you asked.

Yeah but how can Chelsea spend £800m on new players when they are losing £200m per annum as a business
ok thanks. I understand amortisation.
they (chelsea) are rolling the dice here . very risky strategy.

Offline Simon Page

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Re: FFP
« Reply #163 on: November 18, 2023, 07:41:12 PM »
Don't they give their new signings eight year contracts so they can spread the payments over the same period?

Just sounds like accountants fudging the books , in a similar vein to the way large corporations employ aggressive tax avoidance tactics

I've yet to meet anyone who asked me to arrange it for them to pay more tax.

I've yet to meet anyone who's asked for less public services when they're in need of them. Not that I think Chelsea are fudging the books with their eight-year deals.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #164 on: November 18, 2023, 09:33:07 PM »
With the threats of legal action being talked by some clubs that were relegated, in the period of Everton’s offences, this could turn into a very expensive farce.  The whole saga threatens to undermine any credibility the the EPL has. 

 


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