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[eamonn]

Pretty certain we sell Jacob Ramsey sooner or later.

He stays fit for a whole season with CL behind him and also probably 5-6 England caps and with his usual prem goals and assists you're talking 60-70m bracket no problem if not more.

Would be disappointing but it's hard to see how we come the other side of these losses as it's a big ask to keep on qualifying for CL.

People ask how Spurs do it but they were in CL every single season from 2016 up to 2020 and now have the Kane money + stadium starting to generate great profit so they're in a very strong position if Levy dosen't make any rash decisions.

Having 10m Korean fans also helos due to Son's success.

All you see on tv close-ups behind the goalposts at Spurs stadium is grinning Koreans shaking their flags.

[Rory]

Pretty certain we sell Jacob Ramsey sooner or later.

He stays fit for a whole season with CL behind him and also probably 5-6 England caps and with his usual prem goals and assists you're talking 60-70m bracket no problem if not more.

Would be disappointing but it's hard to see how we come the other side of these losses as it's a big ask to keep on qualifying for CL.

People ask how Spurs do it but they were in CL every single season from 2016 up to 2020 and now have the Kane money + stadium starting to generate great profit so they're in a very strong position if Levy dosen't make any rash decisions.

Having 10m Korean fans also helos due to Son's success.

All you see on tv close-ups behind the goalposts at Spurs stadium is grinning Koreans shaking their flags.

I was going to comment on the other matches thread after watching MOTD. I kind of worried my language might appear racist, but on reflection I don't think it is*...

Does South Korea switch out the lights whenever Tottenham play at home? They are everywhere! There must be 5k at every home game.

*Those damned slippery, slanty-eyed devils 😉

I wouldn't have thought South Korean tourism to the UK was *that* high, and it's a long way to go to watch someone who already plays for your national team.

I was wondering the other day, given the demographics of Birmingham and England as a whole, the number of people we get from Jamaican backgrounds coming to see Leon.

[Drummond]

Just no.

[Rory]

Just no.

To whom?

[Axl Rose]

New Malden, perhaps, Rory? There's a pretty big Korean population in the UK, I think. Students, workers etc.

As for the 'slippery slanty-eyed devils' remark...hmm. Rubbish winky face thing or not, what's the point?

I wasn't going to comment as I can't be arsed, but sigh.

[Rory]

New Malden, perhaps, Rory? There's a pretty big Korean population in the UK, I think. Students, workers etc.

As for the 'slippery slanty-eyed devils' remark...hmm. Rubbish winky face thing or not, what's the point?

I wasn't going to comment as I can't be arsed, but sigh.

It was a joke based on the premise of me withholding my original comment on the worry that it might be racist...followed by an obviously racist comment.

I apologise, but it was meant to be fully cloaked in irony. In the same way a joke about pale-skinned, fat-headed Irishmen would be - I can't help being a pink blob with eyes that are too big and with a head shaped like a potato.

I meant no insult to your country or family, Axl. I hope my apology and the context will convince you of that.

Assuming you will forgive my attempt at humour, my questions were genuine.

Why are so many South Koreans in London when Tottenham play, and why are we unable to tap into the huge Jaimaican community in Birmingham when we have a Jamaican international playing so brilliantly for us?

[Axl Rose]

Sorry mate. On reflection, I understand! I was being the usual misery arse. My mistake. I hope you'll forgive my rubbish response.

It's been a while since I've read anything on here or posted, and your post was the first I came across this morning.

No offence caused. My dad is half Scottish half English, my mum half Welsh, half Irish. I had the misfortune of being born in Leicester. Although my wife is from the northern wilds of Hokkaido, some Japanese don't believe this is even part of Japan haha. Our little girl, or so I'm quite often told, 'looks like a foreigner', whatever that means 😂

Not quite sure about the Korean thing. I lived there for three years, and back then they were obsessed with Park Ji Sung and Man Utd. The Japanese also go wild for any sportsperson doing well abroad. I don't really get it as it would be like me ditching Villa to follow Michael Owen when he played for Madrid, as a number of Koreans and Japanese I know completely stop following their favourite teams from home. Maybe it's a sense of pride? God only knows! To be fair to the Koreans, they're football mad, whereas the Japanese only seem to be during world cups etc, plus baseball is still king here. Maybe.

Is football massive in Jamaica? I have no idea to be honest.

[Rory]

Sorry mate. On reflection, I understand! I was being the usual misery arse. My mistake. I hope you'll forgive my rubbish response.

It's been a while since I've read anything on here or posted, and your post was the first I came across this morning.

No offence caused. My dad is half Scottish half English, my mum half Welsh, half Irish. I had the misfortune of being born in Leicester. Although my wife is from the northern wilds of Hokkaido, some Japanese don't believe this is even part of Japan haha. Our little girl, or so I'm quite often told, 'looks like a foreigner', whatever that means 😂

Not quite sure about the Korean thing. I lived there for three years, and back then they were obsessed with Park Ji Sung and Man Utd. The Japanese also go wild for any sportsperson doing well abroad. I don't really get it as it would be like me ditching Villa to follow Michael Owen when he played for Madrid, as a number of Koreans and Japanese I know completely stop following their favourite teams from home. Maybe it's a sense of pride? God only knows! To be fair to the Koreans, they're football mad, whereas the Japanese only seem to be during world cups etc, plus baseball is still king here. Maybe.

Is football massive in Jamaica? I have no idea to be honest.

No, my fault entirely, mate.

Yeah, Park Ji Sung was one of the players I was thinking of. I know there was talk of him adding a few hundred thousand to the TV audience, but I don't recall thousands of people at Old Trafford there specifically to support him in the same way there are thousands at the Tottenham ground purely for Son.

[edgysatsuma89]

I was in London for a scan recently and I decided to walk a good hour and I was amazed at the number of East Asian restaurants and cafés* I passed, absolutely pissed on our Chinese Quarter. Just an incredible amount. I lack the linguistic nuance to know how many were specifically South Korean but it highlighted just how much of an East Asian population there is down there. I doubt Manchester would be able to compete on that front but I get what you're saying, it is surprising.

I've only ever known 3 Jamaicans really well and none of them gave a shit about football, so that's my incredible input there. Anecdotes don't make data and all that.

*I had a rougamo for the first time from a tiny place and fuck me it was good.

[Nev]

I made the point about the Korean support at Spurs and I think it was Chico who pointed out that London has a very high population of Koreans.

I don't think we can ever match the "where the fuck did 20k extra fans come from?" that has happened in London. Birmingham is about to enter a golden age of shit too given the Council cuts.

[sid1964]

With regards to our stadium - it does appear as though to compete financially with the other clubs we are either going to build a new ground elsewhere or totally renovate Villa Park.

Looking at other clubs that we are trying to compete with to get top 4, Newcastle, Chelsea, United - these clubs are also looking to move their stadiums or totally rebuilding their current one.

We cannot have 89% of our revenue being spent on salaries, it is unsustainable - listening UTV podcast, one of the guys on the show said "if we had just rebuilt the North Stand, it would have been like sticking a plaster on a break in a dam"

Spurs who have a larger wage bill than ourselves currently spend 47% of their income on wages.

Hopefully our current owners have a plan for us to compete at the top end of the Premier League but for many seasons to come.

[VillaTim]

Sustained years of Success on the pitch will bring in more revenue . It's not like we can catch Spurs revenue overnight , it's a 10 - 15 year thing / plan that's required.

[itmustbe_it is!]

I went to a networking event a couple of weeks ago at Villa and the speaker was the club's new head of Strategy and Analytics. This role is looking at the non-playing-side data, amongst other things, doing what supermarkets do with your data through loyalty cards and how they profile your habits).

Anyway... he made some interesting points about measuring the average spend of supporters in the ground, what they spend on merch and food, the different trends and patterns. But importantly about whether the figures stacked up for the new stand - based on the spending power of current fans that this (alongside 1/3 of the ground being affected, transport etc) was one of the reasons it was stopped. Basically, there isn't enough demand (atm) to justify an increase of 2000-3000 premium seats.

Just adds to the challenge we face.

I also think it was/is the underlying reason why we didn;t prioritise the FA Cup and LEague cups - The Champions League position is obviously first, but even the Conference league - despite it being a lesser trophy, would generate £25m for the club if we won it. Could be very important for next season's accounts...

The average fucking spend would be so much more if they could only sort the fucking service out.

Pay staff triple what the current lot are on and you'll attract way better staff. They will more than triple the spend and the club would be quids in without even upping prices.

I'd be interested to know whether there is any difference between the spend by supporters in , for example, the Lower Holte, where in my experience it is easy to get food and drink pre match and the quality seems reasonable , and other areas which are still as rubbish for getting served.

[Dante Lavelli]

Has anyone managed to put a positive spin on the numbers yet. (full stop)

I’ll give is a go, here are some positives:

1. We have rich owners that aren’t about to do runner and put the club in jeopardy so essentially the club is safe.
2. We must spend every penny of the £105m allowable losses in every three year period to maximise our chances of growth.
3. These figures largely relate to the Gerrard debacle where we were often 17th in the league.
4. Things have improved since, certainly income wise.
5. The burden of his transfer strategy will be largely flushed be through soon.
6. We now have a manager that is increasing the value of 80% of the squad.

To put it another way, the club is being as ambitious as the rules allow. Furthermore, just  imagine how bad the figures would look with Gerrard in charge, languishing in the bottom half and with no sellable assets.

[tomd2103]

Sustained years of Success on the pitch will bring in more revenue . It's not like we can catch Spurs revenue overnight , it's a 10 - 15 year thing / plan that's required.

How much does hosting the NFL games boost their revenue?