Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.

[ozzjim]

Of course it was possible. Handle it with some class and dignity. Don't spend a season saying one thing after signing a new deal while ferreting about with the billion pound messiah behind the scenes to get your move. Was he actually injured for 4 months last season? Amazing he got back for the last 2 games to make the England squad. He could have done a number of things to make it less distasteful.

[chrisw1]

Southgate wasn't picking him for England, and now is, after three games for Man City and still no Champions League games. He may very well become a better player there but he isn't now any better than he was with us.

It stinks, we might as well all give up if everytime we get anyone decent with ambition they all feel they need to move to a ESL6 team to get to play for England.

Agreed.  He may have moved anyway but Southgate's approach must have played a part.

[AV82EC]

Oh god don't start with the moral high ground for a bloke that calculated how to leave us while giving it the big one of you routine. He's a shit bag, and not with defending.

There is no way he could have played his exit that would have left you happy.

Not signinging a contract - the ungrateful bastard is running down his contract
Signing a contract but not saying anything - the ungrateful bastard is jis=ust signing the contract as his move fell through
Telling fans how much he loved Villa after he left - the lying weasel bastard, why did he leave then

etc, etc

It was impossible for him to leave without a meltdown one way or another.  Whatever he did or said would have been picked over with a fine toothed comb and thrown back at him.

Its not the fact he's left, i think most of us have accepted he's gone and the reasons why, but the lack of respect being shown to our club, our manager and all those people who got him to where he now is. He desperately needs some decent PR as he's becoming deft at putting his foot in his mouth.

[RichardBatchelor]

The whole affair is just very sad, really.

[Risso]

Its not the fact he's left, i think most of us have accepted he's gone and the reasons why, but the lack of respect being shown to our club, our manager and all those people who got him to where he now is. He desperately needs some decent PR as he's becoming deft at putting his foot in his mouth.

Two things - he's thick as pigshit, and he doesn't care. This is the person who gave a speech about staying home to protect the NHS, then was filmed driving into parked cars whilst pissed shortly after. He's a twat whose behaviour we turned a blind eye to whilst he played for us.

[ozzjim]

Its not the fact he's left, i think most of us have accepted he's gone and the reasons why, but the lack of respect being shown to our club, our manager and all those people who got him to where he now is. He desperately needs some decent PR as he's becoming deft at putting his foot in his mouth.

Two things - he's thick as pigshit, and he doesn't care. This is the person who gave a speech about staying home to protect the NHS, then was filmed driving into parked cars whilst pissed shortly after. He's a twat whose behaviour we turned a blind eye to whilst he played for us.

And people are defending.

[PeterWithe]

Ah I dont think he's a bad lad, just ill advised and a bit naive.

And the clothes, fucking hell the clothes.

[AV82EC]

Its not the fact he's left, i think most of us have accepted he's gone and the reasons why, but the lack of respect being shown to our club, our manager and all those people who got him to where he now is. He desperately needs some decent PR as he's becoming deft at putting his foot in his mouth.

Two things - he's thick as pigshit, and he doesn't care. This is the person who gave a speech about staying home to protect the NHS, then was filmed driving into parked cars whilst pissed shortly after. He's a twat whose behaviour we turned a blind eye to whilst he played for us.

Agree Risso.

[ozzjim]

The drink driving incident, any other player, any other club, we are hammering them. Could easily have been 100 times worse. The signs were always there, we chose to ignore them.

[Abbeyfealeavfc]

 ...The Phillips and Rice examples mean nothing - there isn't the same level of competition in those positions.

It does mean something. They don't play cl football (as well as Pickford) and they would be competition for each other if horseface wasn't so intent on playing dour boring football at the expense of the attacking intent he has at his disposal.

[Monty]

He's a bit of an idiot is what he is. And I don't suppose he's got too much of a mind of his own when it comes to matters, uh, cultural. Hence why he just couldn't imagine anything more obvious than to do what every FIFA-playing, merch-tragic, 'I support Manchester', football-flavoured content consuming Insta-moron on earth expected him to do.

[AV82EC]

He's a bit of an idiot is what he is. And I don't suppose he's got too much of a mind of his own when it comes to matters, uh, cultural. Hence why he just couldn't imagine anything more obvious than to do what every FIFA-playing, merch-tragic, 'I support Manchester', football-flavoured content consuming Insta-moron on earth expected him to do.

Stands and applauds. Have stolen the "Insta-Moron" insult, superb.

[sickbeggar]

Southgate wasn't picking him for England, and now is, after three games for Man City and still no Champions League games. He may very well become a better player there but he isn't now any better than he was with us.

It stinks, we might as well all give up if everytime we get anyone decent with ambition they all feel they need to move to a ESL6 team to get to play for England.

Agreed.  He may have moved anyway but Southgate's approach must have played a part.

aye. makes you wonder what seeds he was planting in Kane's head too seeing he's such a pep fanboy.

[chrisw1]

 ...The Phillips and Rice examples mean nothing - there isn't the same level of competition in those positions.

It does mean something. They don't play cl football (as well as Pickford) and they would be competition for each other if horseface wasn't so intent on playing dour boring football at the expense of the attacking intent he has at his disposal.

The point is other than Henderson there's nobody at 'Big 6' clubs really competing for their places.  That's not the case for Grealish, which is why he was finding it so hard to break into the team.

I don't for a minute think his game has elevated at Man City yet and yes Southgate may well have started him last night anyway.  But there's no doubt in my mind that being at Villa affected his minutes at the Euros.

[RamboandBruno]

The huge thing missing was self awareness, nothing new there for a multi millionaire premier league footballer.
One of the reasons I believe Grealish ended up being so popular around the country, was not just his playing style, but his story, playing for his hometown club. He’s just another bit piece at Man City. But ratboy wouldn’t have a scooby about that. Also no awareness of the offensiveness to Villa. As others have said, it’s not the fact he’s now left, but that interview was arrogant and dreadful.