Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.

[Villan82]

I can't shake the feeling that Ratboy really derailed their plans for the summer. Look how desperate they were to keep him? Throwing a massive contract in front of him? I wonder if he was what they used to sell the club to transfer targets?

I honestly believe he delivered one of the hardest kicks to the balls this club has ever had.

[sickbeggar]

I noted Everton, another club reputedly with owners with deep pockets have currently spent less than 1m net. Has anyone got a list of the current spends, specifically those clubs we are/were looking to overhaul from last season?

[cdbearsfan]

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/transfers/wettbewerb/GB1/saison_id/2021/s_w/s

[sickbeggar]

Cheers.

[john e]

I can't shake the feeling that Ratboy really derailed their plans for the summer. Look how desperate they were to keep him? Throwing a massive contract in front of him? I wonder if he was what they used to sell the club to transfer targets?

I honestly believe he delivered one of the hardest kicks to the balls this club has ever had.

I used to believe that but don’t now
more that comes out about Grealish it obvious he’s been looking to get away for a couple of seasons now
Yeah he played us fans for fools but the club would have known His intentions

[ez]

I can't shake the feeling that Ratboy really derailed their plans for the summer. Look how desperate they were to keep him? Throwing a massive contract in front of him? I wonder if he was what they used to sell the club to transfer targets?

I honestly believe he delivered one of the hardest kicks to the balls this club has ever had.

I was wondering how many of our new signings were taken with the prospect of playing alongside him only to find they aren't.

[Duncan Shaw]

I can't shake the feeling that Ratboy really derailed their plans for the summer. Look how desperate they were to keep him? Throwing a massive contract in front of him? I wonder if he was what they used to sell the club to transfer targets?

I honestly believe he delivered one of the hardest kicks to the balls this club has ever had.

I was wondering how many of our new signings were taken with the prospect of playing alongside him only to find they aren't.

Presumably only potentially Buendia?  Bailey was after and so was Ings, and I'm sure Young wouldn't have been star-struck anyway!

[Demitri_C]

If we don’t bring anyone in today in midfield will it make me nervous betw now and January? absolutely, will it be a disaster, doom & gloom scenario? No way.

Club have invested a lot in Sanson, we need him on the field so we can judge if he is good enough, you don’t spend 14m on a player who was valued much higher before the French tv crisis crashed the market over there and not see him as a likely starter - he needs to be fit and play.

If there is an opportunity to bring in a player who can consistently do the good things Nakamba does in one off games but is also capable of actually passing the odd ball forwards then would hope to get it done- if that player isn’t available or doesn’t want to come to us then we go with what we have.

But even with sanson he isnt the dm we are looking for. He is more of a creative attacking player.

We are so lightweight in the middle of the park its unbelievable. If smith cant see that he is more clueless than we thought

I don’t think he’s clueless at all so that’s a ‘you’ or ‘I’ not a ‘we’

We are light in there undoubtedly but it has to be right player incoming, someone who demands a shirt every week

Just to correct you all it needs is "one" other person to say he is clueless then it becomes a we. That part of your post was unnecessary. Anyway in subject

Of course it has to be right player, not a panic buy but i find it hard to believe there are not better players out there than nakamba.  If we have aspirations for europe we wont get there if nakamba has to play week in week out if luiz gets injured. Not sure if he has aspirations to play axel there but my preferred option would be a player proven in that position.

JJ, chuk, sanson and mcginn are not ball winning midfielders. We need another one of them in my opinion. A more solid tank like player. We don't have any of those.

[Monty]

Axel would make enough sense at the base of a 4-3-3, in a pinch. In a 4-4-2? Not for a day.

[ozzjim]

Anyone take a 12 month loan of Lingard to play 10?

[Risso]

Anyone take a 12 month loan of Lingard to play 10?

Back off to Wet Spam isn't he?

[richtheholtender]

When was the last time we had an exciting deadline day signing?

[Drummond]

The net spend argument is completely clouded by the record transfer fee that came in.

When you look at the players in, and out, we're stronger.

Out
Ratboy
Wesley
Hourihane
Guilbert
Engels
Heaton

In
Ings
Buendia
Bailey
Young
Tuanzebe

We're stronger up front, we're stronger in defence, and we're down Hourihane in midfield. (Sanson came in early so could be argued to be a replacement, though given Hourihane was on loan too it's not really much different)

Goalkeeper is weaker though we've brought Sinisalo back from a solid season of first team football in Scotland.

I'd say the only area we've not upgraded (or downgraded) is central midfield, yet we have McGinn and Luiz who are both good players. We have Nakamba, Sanson, as seniors and Ramsey, Chukwuemeka as younger players coming through.

I suspect the sort of player we want we haven't been able to get yet, but it's not the disaster some are making out.

The other thing I'd like to say is that we have a much better squad than we have had for a long time. We are improving and frankly need to again this year. I think we can but we've had a rough few weeks with Covid-19 and injuries which has distorted things.

Re the coach situation, we've brought in MacPhee and another is serving notice elsewhere. We're freshening things up.

[Drummond]

Anyone take a 12 month loan of Lingard to play 10?

No ta

[ASHTONVILLA]

Anyone take a 12 month loan of Lingard to play 10?

Yes, but only if it didn't mean a more solid central midfielder coming in. Need a younger Jedinak.

Also think we have the answer to number 10 in McGinn, and Buendia. Suspect we will see Ings play there though as Smith tries multiple ways to play too many attacking players at the same time.