Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.

[Monty]

Winks is one of those players who, beyond 'midfielder', defies explanation as to what he actually does.

[Sexual Ealing]

Winks could finally be the Jenas replacement we've all been crying out for all these years.

We've been missing someone like that since Mark Kinsella.

[LeeB]

Is Winks better than Nkamba?

I know he's become something of a byword for mediocrity, but my answer would be yes, by some distance I would think.

[robleflaneur]

Is Winks better than Nkamba?

I doubt he's better than Westwood.JWP would have been a replacement for Nakamba.For Saints he plays a dual pivot role.At winning the ball he is as good as Rice and Phillips but a far better passer and then there's his set pieces.A criminally underrated player and so is Ings.

[Monty]

Apparently Leeds were offered Winks on loan. They said no.

[aev]

I thought Winks was "ok" whenever i saw him.

Playing 3 in midfield, i don't think we can get away with someone that is simply defensive, we have Nakamba for that.

We need someone that is a beast defensively, but also can then get forward if needed. Players like this i guess tend to cost an awful lot of money.

[LeeB]

Apparently Leeds were offered Winks on loan. They said no.

He doesn't sport a man-bun or bunches, or a crap tattoo, which instantly rules him out up there.

[richtheholtender]

West ham bringing someone else in. I do think this window is going to come across better than it actually is purely on the basis that we got our business done early. Truth it that by the time west ham and alike are done the window will even itself out. We can't hold Dean Smith accountable to anything above a 13th place finish for me now because he can quite rightly say I have the same quality of team (first 11) as last year and those around have invested with a negative net spend.

[Monty]

Who is the best player in the world with a man-bun? Griezmann?

[Risso]

Full detail...

#avfc won’t pursue a deal for #lfc midfielder Curtis Jones. Dean Smith happy with the squad he has, but still has money for a midfielder if a decent deal is forthcoming before tomorrow’s deadline. Already seen bids knocked back for Ward-Prowse and Smith Rowe.

There's some great planning there. Do a deal if a midfielder magically appears in the 24 hours before the window shuts? Great. I think the post above is probably right with predictions of a loan for somebody like Winks. Not good enough or wanted by a club we're competing with, but will give Smith the chance to add another samey midfielder and blather on about his Champions League experience.

[Meanwood Villa]

Winks would be massively underwhelming. Almost more underwhelming than no one at all.

[Clark W Griswold]

I always thought Winks was a bit better than most are suggesting and comes across as a decent sort when interviewed but yes i agree that he is 'samey' to what we have. Maybe a little more defensive than some but again not exactly what we need. If it's a choice between him for a resonable fee (or a loan where we're in the driving seat at the end of it), or nothing then i'd take him. If it's a choice of him on loan with Tottenham in the driving seat at the end of it or no one i'd probably take no one and use our own players.

[Aldridge Villa]

Any move for Winks would have a very strong Tom Carroll feel about it.

[sickbeggar]

People keep going on about Levy's transfer genius with Kane, but if got us to pay money for Winks he'd have topped that.

[RamboandBruno]

Winks is very average. But who said we’re moving for him, just the usual click bait.

I also don’t get the concern about other teams moving ahead of us. Whether Arsenal have played city or Chelsea or not, they are in turmoil. West Ham look really good, but lose Antonio to injury and they will struggle a bit. Everton have had a decent start but long way to go.
There really is a habit at looking at everything villa as a bit shite and everything everywhere else as rosey. Yes we need a DM, but we have some really good players when all fit.