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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #9210 on: August 29, 2021, 06:28:24 PM »
Something doesn't add up about this summer. We were told to be excited about a couple of big signings or words to that effect, so assuming that includes Buendia who was the other? Bailey and Ings were replacements for whatshisname, they weren't plan A. We bid for Ward-Prowse and Smith-Rowe but seemingly haven't pursued other targets in their positions. Did we just give up when Ward-Prowse didn't come off? Pretty weak if so, especially considering the bid was derisory.



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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #9211 on: August 29, 2021, 06:33:52 PM »
Only fair :)

Poor bloke really didn't want Ratboy either.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #9212 on: August 29, 2021, 06:53:11 PM »
Something doesn't add up about this summer. We were told to be excited about a couple of big signings or words to that effect, so assuming that includes Buendia who was the other? Bailey and Ings were replacements for whatshisname, they weren't plan A. We bid for Ward-Prowse and Smith-Rowe but seemingly haven't pursued other targets in their positions. Did we just give up when Ward-Prowse didn't come off? Pretty weak if so, especially considering the bid was derisory.





Ings and Bailey were two very very exciting signings. As is Buendia. It was always going to be overshadowed by losing Grealish. He’s gone and in one way at least we can move on without the circus. It’s a right bastard, he’s been one good thing for so long amongst some right shit times. He’s been a joy to watch and we always felt it was special because of who and where he came from. Because of this our summer was always going to look bleak. However we’ve made some really fabulous signings and fro what I’ve see so far, once we are up to full strength we’re going to have a very good season.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #9213 on: August 29, 2021, 06:59:24 PM »
It feels from Dean's interviews and generally seeming pleased with a draw at home to Brentford we are just aiming to stay in the League

We still haven't brought in a replacement for JT or ROK. and haven't even spent all of the Jack Grealish money

Very worrying

This is such a negative way of looking at it all. Watkins didn’t come on any earlier because he’s not completely fit. As much as I like Hourihane, what difference do you think a slow midfield player would have made to that game. You cannot analyse yesterday’s game without taking into account the huge impact the absences made. It’s great that Ollie got on and looked lively, but find a black hole of despair in every silver lining hey.
I wouldn't bother. He's still on a high after their massive point at Barnsley

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #9214 on: August 29, 2021, 07:09:28 PM »
It seems odd that we appeared to be in for JWP, but on the face of it had no alternatives.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #9215 on: August 29, 2021, 07:30:12 PM »
It seems odd that we appeared to be in for JWP, but on the face of it had no alternatives.

Smith-Rowe too. If the plan was any two of the three from him, Ings and Bailey given the styles of each of them it would seem a little haphazard.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #9216 on: August 29, 2021, 08:04:19 PM »
It seems odd that we appeared to be in for JWP, but on the face of it had no alternatives.

Smith-Rowe too. If the plan was any two of the three from him, Ings and Bailey given the styles of each of them it would seem a little haphazard.

It's just so befuddled.

I don't understand any of it since the phantom raspberry blower of old London Town left.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #9217 on: August 29, 2021, 08:22:14 PM »
It seems odd that we appeared to be in for JWP, but on the face of it had no alternatives.

Smith-Rowe too. If the plan was any two of the three from him, Ings and Bailey given the styles of each of them it would seem a little haphazard.

It's just so befuddled.

I don't understand any of it since the phantom raspberry blower of old London Town left.

Buendia came in before they knew they were Losing Grealish I think, so I think the whole buying 3 players with different attributes to replace Grealish, was to a degree PR spin by Purslow.
It seems to me that Smith-Rowe was probably the Grealish replacement and when that didn’t come off, Bailey was the alternative. Sniffing around Ward-Prowse maybe led them to find out Ings would be open to coming and he is both a good player and added a bit of a cushion to the Grealish blow on that day.
I obviously have no evidence for any of this, just my own thoughts.

I agree re Ward-Prowse and a back up plan, unless our whole strategy is around set pieces!!

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #9218 on: August 29, 2021, 09:27:21 PM »
I’d like to think we’re all being a bit negative and forgetting how savvy our owners/management have been and are able to be. If we don’t sign any more players then I will be disheartened as much as the next man, however there are 2 days to go and my feeling is that they have targets identified and ready to pounce in the final few hours when most deals are done and may become available at slightly lower prices. Let’s see how things pan out.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #9219 on: August 29, 2021, 09:35:43 PM »
I think we'll bring one more in on loan. 

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #9220 on: August 29, 2021, 09:45:00 PM »
I’d like to think we’re all being a bit negative and forgetting how savvy our owners/management have been and are able to be. If we don’t sign any more players then I will be disheartened as much as the next man, however there are 2 days to go and my feeling is that they have targets identified and ready to pounce in the final few hours when most deals are done and may become available at slightly lower prices. Let’s see how things pan out.

This late in the game clubs will be looking to bring in replacements before they let somebody go.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #9221 on: August 29, 2021, 10:06:45 PM »
The ‘stockpiling’ comment is looking more ridiculous as the days go by.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #9222 on: August 29, 2021, 10:14:43 PM »
If we work on the principle that the original transfer plan was based on Jack staying, then it seems we were after Buendia, Smith Rowe and Ward Prowse. Presumably Buendia was to replace Trezeguet, Smith Rowe was to replace Barkley, and Ward Prowse was to take the free kicks Jack used to win. The other strong link was the Argie Gary Shaw.

We clearly had funds available to offer £25m for Smith Rowe, and £25m for Ward Prowse, plus what we spent on Buendia before we sold Jack.

Plan B seems to have seen us bring in Ings and Bailey to vary what we have up front. I am pretty sure we were serious about getting in Cantwell and JWP too, but seem to have baulked at the prices quoted.

Either plan there seems to have been money available for more signings, but we would not pay what the selling club wanted for the targets. I still think we will bring in another midfielder.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #9223 on: August 29, 2021, 10:45:31 PM »
Something doesn't add up about this summer. We were told to be excited about a couple of big signings or words to that effect, so assuming that includes Buendia who was the other? Bailey and Ings were replacements for whatshisname, they weren't plan A. We bid for Ward-Prowse and Smith-Rowe but seemingly haven't pursued other targets in their positions. Did we just give up when Ward-Prowse didn't come off? Pretty weak if so, especially considering the bid was derisory.





Ings and Bailey were two very very exciting signings. As is Buendia. It was always going to be overshadowed by losing Grealish. He’s gone and in one way at least we can move on without the circus. It’s a right bastard, he’s been one good thing for so long amongst some right shit times. He’s been a joy to watch and we always felt it was special because of who and where he came from. Because of this our summer was always going to look bleak. However we’ve made some really fabulous signings and fro what I’ve see so far, once we are up to full strength we’re going to have a very good season.
Yeah, absolutely agree. We could've bought almost anyone this summer, losing Grealish would've put a dampener on things.

Also think his transfer fee has distorted things. We've spent near enough £300m over the past 2 seasons + 1 summer. It's not like we're scrimping & saving just because we've not spent another £100m on top of that.

Besides, apparently we were planning, at least semi-likely, on him staying. So why panic buy players at a couple of weeks notice? Better to wait until next summer, when our money will be worth the same but we won't be paying the Grealish-based inflation on transfer fees (and with that, increased wages)

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #9224 on: August 29, 2021, 10:47:47 PM »
We need a defensive central midfielder now, not next year.

 


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