Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.

[Risso]

I think the problem is we've signed loads of midfielders so not unreasonable for Lange or perhaps even the owners to say to DS, hang on you signed Sanson for 18m just in January so get him fit and in the team.

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Brilliant.
There is also the possibility that targets aren't available or players need to leave before anymore are signed.

Why would players have to leave first? That’s just excuse making for mediocrity in my opinion.

[Monty]

A player has left. There's money available.

Also, Smith isn't 'in charge' of recruitment like an old school manager, but he has a strong influence by all accounts.

[Sexual Ealing]

A player has left. There's money available.

Also, Smith isn't 'in charge' of recruitment like an old school manager, but he has a strong influence by all accounts.

Which accounts are these?

[Dave]

A player has left. There's money available.

Also, Smith isn't 'in charge' of recruitment like an old school manager, but he has a strong influence by all accounts.

Which accounts are these?

It would be a rather odd coincidence for us to end up with Konsa and Watkins from his former club if he had literally nothing to do with it.

Not impossible. Just odd.

[Sexual Ealing]

A player has left. There's money available.

Also, Smith isn't 'in charge' of recruitment like an old school manager, but he has a strong influence by all accounts.

Which accounts are these?

It would be a rather odd coincidence for us to end up with Konsa and Watkins from his former club if he had literally nothing to do with it.

Not impossible. Just odd.

I didn't say he had nothing to do with it. I was replying to SHQ, who implied that Lange would be holding DS to account about signings. Lange ultimately carries the can for signings.

[brontebilly]

Our midfield is gonna bite Dean in the ass if we don’t bring one more in.
If we lose McGinn or even Luiz for a while then the next in line is beyond poor. Sanson is never fit let alone how they are so confident he can even do it in the prem. Then we have Nakamba (terrible) and kids.
The quality depth is awful.

Smith claimed the club had been scouting Sanson for quite some time last January..it's starting to sound a bit like Bruce and Scott Hogan at this stage...hardly a peep about how his recovery is going. In any case Sanson isn't the genuine number 6 we need and I don't think Smith has ever been clear on what midfield setup he wants in there.

[Dave]

A player has left. There's money available.

Also, Smith isn't 'in charge' of recruitment like an old school manager, but he has a strong influence by all accounts.

Which accounts are these?

It would be a rather odd coincidence for us to end up with Konsa and Watkins from his former club if he had literally nothing to do with it.

Not impossible. Just odd.

I didn't say he had nothing to do with it. I was replying to SHQ, who implied that Lange would be holding DS to account about signings. Lange ultimately carries the can for signings.

Sure. But given we've spend at least forty or so million pounds on players who (logic would suggest) were more at the behest of Smith than Lange or his predecessor, Smith having a "strong influence" on transfers isn't really an outlandish suggestion.

[Risso]

In the Pitarch days, I think it was really easy to spot the Smith signings, and the Suso signings. It’s also very obvious why only one of those men is still in a job.

[Sexual Ealing]

No, it's not. But somebody else ultimately has the responsibility.

I had a meeting with a potential client today,where I made a recommendation. She said, "really?!" and I replied, "yes. But I would say that. It's your company. You have to decide."

Same thing*.


*To a degree!

Edit: I was replying to Dave!

[Monty]

Percy, Gregggggg Evans, etc. Lange is head of recruitment, but they do also rely on Smith's assessment of the team's strengths and weaknesses to a large degree.

[Steve67]

Dean Smith is absolutely in charge of which players he wants.  Lange is in charge of signing them and all recruitment.  Dean Smith says, I want so and so, Lange is then charged with getting him in.  There is no way that Dean Smith did not select the likes of Konsa, Buendia, Mings, Cash, Watkins or Ings.  He needed help from Pitarch when we first came back up, which is why we signed some crap, with Pitarch paying for it with his job.  Smith may not want to sign all of the players we have brought in but he has a real healthy say in who does come in.

[Dave]

Percy, Gregggggg Evans, etc. Lange is head of recruitment, but they do also rely on Smith's assessment of the team's strengths and weaknesses to a large degree.

You'd kind of hope that's how it should be. If he had no input at all on (at the very least) the type of player he feels the team needs then he might as well not be there.

If he's worked out a world beating 3-5-2 plan and Lange keeps bringing him defensive full backs, then things aren't really working as they should.

[Steve67]

I see Watford signed Sissoko from Spurs today.  We could have done with him for a season.

[TonyD]

Axel Witsel seems to be incoming.   

[Sexual Ealing]

Percy, Gregggggg Evans, etc. Lange is head of recruitment, but they do also rely on Smith's assessment of the team's strengths and weaknesses to a large degree.

You'd kind of hope that's how it should be. If he had no input at all on (at the very least) the type of player he feels the team needs then he might as well not be there.

If he's worked out a world beating 3-5-2 plan and Lange keeps bringing him defensive full backs, then things aren't really working as they should.

Nobody has suggested that that's how it works.

And, also, Dean is a good and decent man who would never recommend a 3-5-2 as a permanent solution to anything other than the result of a dog race.