Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.

[SoccerHQ]

Interesting what DS said today, could be looked at as we're done spending 30m on someone after the failed Ward Prowse bid but if a decent midfielder is offered on loan....

I think that could be pretty sensible, other clubs do it all the time and finish above us with ease and then look again at the market next summer as we have settled defence now and will surely not need any more attackers next summer so that will be the first quality over quantity window we've had in a very long time (should've happened this summer but for you know who).

Just get bad visions of someone like Harry Winks turning up on loan last minute like Cleverley a few seasons back so rather not bother if that's the best we could get.

[Risso]

No thanks. Six months of quality after years of mediocrity. You can guarantee we would get the mediocre version.

Also we're fairly well set for attack minded players. We need the hard but good player in the middle, like Soucek, Kante, Ndidi or Bissouma. Somebody like that would make such a big difference to us, it's pissing me off that in our third year back in the Premier League we still haven't gone for somebody of that ilk.

I'd say longer than that, to be honest. Townsend perhaps the last we had that was really top class?

Yes, but I've tried to block out most of the intervening years. And you've cruelly forgotten Mark Kinsella. David O'Leary was right....

[SoccerHQ]

Petrov settled into the DM role really well, so clever at winning free kicks and reading the game and we didn't half miss his leadership in there when he had to stop playing because of the awful illness.

Westwood looked at one stage like he might develop into similar but got found out as soon as Delph went.

Jedinak might've been effective if we'd signed him 2-3 years earlier. By the time he came in he had little mobility so could only really win headers. Same for Whelan although he did better in 18/19.

Certainly feels like a position where we've winged it over the last decade compared to other areas.

[Risso]

Yes Petrov did well once O'Neill worked out he wasn't a winger. Milner wasn't a specialist DM but he was such a complete midfielder that it feels wrong to exclude him.

[VinnieChase84]

Petrov settled into the DM role really well, so clever at winning free kicks and reading the game and we didn't half miss his leadership in there when he had to stop playing because of the awful illness.

Westwood looked at one stage like he might develop into similar but got found out as soon as Delph went.

Jedinak might've been effective if we'd signed him 2-3 years earlier. By the time he came in he had little mobility so could only really win headers. Same for Whelan although he did better in 18/19.

Certainly feels like a position where we've winged it over the last decade compared to other areas.

I don’t get the lack of investment in that area. We have more expensive full backs than any fee we’ve paid for a CM. Not saying bid fee = sure thing but it defo helps. We’re happy to spend £30m on players who’ve never kicked a ball in the Prem yet seem reluctant to properly go big on a quality CM. We’ve just pocketed £100m. We were willing to spend £30m on JWP. Why not spend that type of money on a Weston, Bissouma or even £20m on an Anguissa type. Just doesn’t add up

[ozzjim]

The other thing that gets me is that notoriously after major tournaments players have dips and injuries during the season due to lack of rest. Add on top that Bailey, Emi x2 and Luiz could miss significant numbers of games after internationals this season due to quarantine and match times, plus Bert and Nakamba likely to be missing for significant time with the AFCON. Its not stockpiling players, its having a squad that can cope.

[SoccerHQ]

I think the problem is we've signed loads of midfielders so not unreasonable for Lange or perhaps even the owners to say to DS, hang on you signed Sanson for 18m just in January so get him fit and in the team.

Luiz and Nakamba cost 30m between them and neither leaving the club just yet.

We certainly do lack a pure DM though. Could muddle through last season given the quality we had out on the left but certainly feels like a good team will expose it big time while we re-adjust the forward line and we'll be playing a few in September and October.

[Sexual Ealing]

I think the problem is we've signed loads of midfielders so not unreasonable for Lange or perhaps even the owners to say to DS, hang on you signed Sanson for 18m just in January so get him fit and in the team.

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[Sexual Ealing]

Given that we have a defined way of playing throughout the age groups, it could be that Lange/Dean/whoever has decided that we don't want to play with a specific DM in the side?

[paul_e]

Yes but who else do you think Smith wants to sign?

[paul_e]

Given that we have a defined way of playing throughout the age groups, it could be that Lange/Dean/whoever has decided that we don't want to play with a specific DM in the side?

Not sure about that lindley, sylla, raihky and appiah have all been genuine DMs for the u23 and u18 over the last year or so.

[cdbearsfan]

FFS Smith, sign some players.

[KNVillan]

Bloody Hell SE you’ll be saying Dean Smith isn't in charge of recruitment next…

[Sexual Ealing]

Given that we have a defined way of playing throughout the age groups, it could be that Lange/Dean/whoever has decided that we don't want to play with a specific DM in the side?

Not sure about that lindley, sylla, raihky and appiah have all been genuine DMs for the u23 and u18 over the last year or so.

Fair enough. I was just asking the question. It just seems to me that whenever the scouts on this thread get increasingly frustrated that their targets aren't being captured, it could be that the people in charge aren't thinking like them.

[Nunkin1965]

I think the problem is we've signed loads of midfielders so not unreasonable for Lange or perhaps even the owners to say to DS, hang on you signed Sanson for 18m just in January so get him fit and in the team.

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Brilliant.
There is also the possibility that targets aren't available or players need to leave before anymore are signed.