Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.

[chrisw1]

Pep on Kane: "Tottenham did not want to negotiate. They didn’t want to talk, so we didn’t talk. We tried to open the door but the big master of negotiations, Daniel Levy, who knows everything, wouldn’t. Maybe I would do the same if I had Harry Kane."

So arrogant.  How dare a club not just hand over their best player.  Wouldn't it be great if every PL club just refused to deal with City?

Is it particularly arrogant? Just seems to be describing what happened.

Yeah, in my view.  As Lee says the 'master of negotiations' part is taking the piss.  He just sounds put out that a club had the audacity not to give him their best player. How dare they?

[cdbearsfan]

That's the way it sounds to me, too. Could be lost in translation, too, as Monty says.

[Abbeyfealeavfc]

As much as I dislike them, spuds and levy have played a blinder in the whole kane situation showing they are not a feeder club unlike ourselves. Our naivity never fails to disappoint. If there was a clause regarding grealish which allowed him to talk to sh-tty, that still didn't mean we had to sell and it certainly didn't mean we had to sell so far in advance of the transfer window closing. I thought the days of us being a soft touch to players and other clubs was behind us, but seemingly not. Instead despite a disrupted pre-season we roll over too easily. What's to say that won't happen again re Watkins, Martinez or Konsa (clause or no-clause). Our owners have shown everybody has their price and getting replacements isn't always guaranteed. What's purslow on about getting in 3 players to replace dipstick, whilst leaving some glaring gaps unresourced? That's b-llocks especially when one of those players won't be ready till mid-sept at the earliest. Ings is the best of our purchases for where we want to be. Buendia and Bailey probably have bags of potential, but obviously need to deliver on a consistent basis. As regards Tuanzebee and Young these are the signings of a championship side looking for promotion not a side looking to finish in the top 10. For me the owners have lost a little of their shine, as for purslow and lange although Ings brings something proven to the Villa I'm still waiting for that statement signing that will make us fans and other clubs sit up and note that we mean business (especially at a time when ffp means very little I believe) and we're not just a selling club.

[Sexual Ealing]

Pep on Kane: "Tottenham did not want to negotiate. They didn’t want to talk, so we didn’t talk. We tried to open the door but the big master of negotiations, Daniel Levy, who knows everything, wouldn’t. Maybe I would do the same if I had Harry Kane."

So arrogant.  How dare a club not just hand over their best player.  Wouldn't it be great if every PL club just refused to deal with City?

Is it particularly arrogant? Just seems to be describing what happened.

The 'big master of negotiations' line feels a bit churlish and unprofessional.

Hmm. I wouldn't underestimate how hard it is to be funny in another language.

Tell me about it. Even when I put on my sombrero, poncho and funny little moustache the good burghers of Oaxaca were having not a bar of it.

[mr underhill]

It's hard to know which to dislike more - Pep and Dan are both loathsome.

[DC1874]

Spot on Abbeyfealeavfc - this is what I was saying recently. The fact is Spuds kept their best player and we did not. I cannot believe we haven't invested in a class DM. People bang on about Leicester having to sell every summer but no-one has mentioned the elephant in the room that for two years on the bounce now they have failed to break the Top 4 cabal. Granted they won the Holy Grail last May and I would certainly take that this year but we need to game-change the situation to break the monopoly the Scab 6 has and if MCFC are blatantly ignoring FFP then so should we - or is this massively wealthy MSWE spiel just that?

[Demitri_C]

Smith has lied in the past so we cant take it as gospel but he has said no more signings.

Cant see anyone else

[murgsy]

Wiki already has Witsel as a Villa player . Gospel!

[OCD]

If Man City were blatantly breaking FFP rules, why not just offer £150m for Kane and get the deal done?

Sounds like Man City's board have pulled the plug on the Ronaldo deal and sounds like he's probably going to end up at Yanited now.

[Mister E]

Wiki already has Witsel as a Villa player . Gospel!

Not only version.
Is this a transfer 5 years too late?

[Lastfootstamper]

As much as I dislike them, spuds and levy have played a blinder in the whole kane situation showing they are not a feeder club unlike ourselves. Our naivity never fails to disappoint. If there was a clause regarding grealish which allowed him to talk to sh-tty, that still didn't mean we had to sell

It did! It's exactly what it means. There was a clause in his contract that states if someone meets a certain price, in his case £100m, we are obliged to inform him of it and allow him to talk to them.

It's like being stuck on a merry-go-round on here sometimes.

[Drummond]

As much as I dislike them, spuds and levy have played a blinder in the whole kane situation showing they are not a feeder club unlike ourselves. Our naivity never fails to disappoint. If there was a clause regarding grealish which allowed him to talk to sh-tty, that still didn't mean we had to sell and it certainly didn't mean we had to sell so far in advance of the transfer window closing. I thought the days of us being a soft touch to players and other clubs was behind us, but seemingly not. Instead despite a disrupted pre-season we roll over too easily. What's to say that won't happen again re Watkins, Martinez or Konsa (clause or no-clause). Our owners have shown everybody has their price and getting replacements isn't always guaranteed. What's purslow on about getting in 3 players to replace dipstick, whilst leaving some glaring gaps unresourced? That's b-llocks especially when one of those players won't be ready till mid-sept at the earliest. Ings is the best of our purchases for where we want to be. Buendia and Bailey probably have bags of potential, but obviously need to deliver on a consistent basis. As regards Tuanzebee and Young these are the signings of a championship side looking for promotion not a side looking to finish in the top 10. For me the owners have lost a little of their shine, as for purslow and lange although Ings brings something proven to the Villa I'm still waiting for that statement signing that will make us fans and other clubs sit up and note that we mean business (especially at a time when ffp means very little I believe) and we're not just a selling club.

We had an agreement (a confidential one) that said if we had an offer of 7 figures then he could go. He wanted to go. So we did the right and decent thing and trousered £100,000,000 to do it. And we got a rat, with absence issues, taste and class issues with a dodgy injury record off our books and replaced him with a top striker, a player who topped the charts for assists, tackles and challenges and a very promising young attacking player in his stead, with change.

Spurs without Kane would be fucked. The value of their existing players means they'd find it harder to replace Kane and improve, than we did. I also think our signing of Ings assisted with that because otherwise Spurs would have been after him to replace Ings.

In terms of the midfield, ours did very well last season and towards the tail end of the season before, utilising Luiz, Nakamba and McGinn. We now have Sanson to add into the mix along with Ramsay and Chukwuemeka and arguably Buendia. We're better off.

Depending on which system we settle on, and there's plenty of speculation on that but nothing concrete, then there may, or may not, be a need for a specific type of player. The other issue is that there are very few of them around. Kante, Rice and Phillips will not be leaving their clubs for ours; yet. We're rumoured to have sniffed around others but they gone to clubs playing Champions League football. Unless we uncover a youthful talent, then it ain't happening. Gone are the days I think, where we spunk cash for the sake of it on someone who isn't good enough.

Our business this summer has been good.

Tuanzebe on loan makes sense whilst our younger players come through.
Young offers a lot, including the right mentality and experience.
Buendia
Bailey,
Ings.

I'd like some better players in too, but let's face it, we'd need to move some on as well which is why it goes to the wire and deals don't get done. No club can sign anyone they want, not even Man City who have missed out on Messi, Kane and Ronaldo.

[LeeB]

As much as I dislike them, spuds and levy have played a blinder in the whole kane situation showing they are not a feeder club unlike ourselves. Our naivity never fails to disappoint. If there was a clause regarding grealish which allowed him to talk to sh-tty, that still didn't mean we had to sell

It did! It's exactly what it means. There was a clause in his contract that states if someone meets a certain price, in his case £100m, we are obliged to inform him of it and allow him to talk to them.

It's like being stuck on a merry-go-round on here sometimes.

It makes you wonder sometimes.

[Monty]

Gawd help us. A release clause very literally means just that.

[richtheholtender]

As much as I dislike them, spuds and levy have played a blinder in the whole kane situation showing they are not a feeder club unlike ourselves. Our naivity never fails to disappoint. If there was a clause regarding grealish which allowed him to talk to sh-tty, that still didn't mean we had to sell and it certainly didn't mean we had to sell so far in advance of the transfer window closing. I thought the days of us being a soft touch to players and other clubs was behind us, but seemingly not. Instead despite a disrupted pre-season we roll over too easily. What's to say that won't happen again re Watkins, Martinez or Konsa (clause or no-clause). Our owners have shown everybody has their price and getting replacements isn't always guaranteed. What's purslow on about getting in 3 players to replace dipstick, whilst leaving some glaring gaps unresourced? That's b-llocks especially when one of those players won't be ready till mid-sept at the earliest. Ings is the best of our purchases for where we want to be. Buendia and Bailey probably have bags of potential, but obviously need to deliver on a consistent basis. As regards Tuanzebee and Young these are the signings of a championship side looking for promotion not a side looking to finish in the top 10. For me the owners have lost a little of their shine, as for purslow and lange although Ings brings something proven to the Villa I'm still waiting for that statement signing that will make us fans and other clubs sit up and note that we mean business (especially at a time when ffp means very little I believe) and we're not just a selling club.

I agree with alot of this. Concerns me that what we've basically said this summer is that if we hadn't sold him there would be no funds available. We will be waiting along time for spurs and arsenal to be so bad.