Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.

[Smithy]

I suspect its the usual issue of everyone waiting on everyone else

That's how I see it.  A lot of transfer windows are like buying houses in a big chain the closer they get to deadline day. We did really well to get quite a lot of business done early, but we're now at the stage where anyone selling is likely going to want to reinvest anything we give them, and with time running out selling clubs will probably want those deals as close to secure as possible.

It's no guarantee we're going to sign anyone, obviously, but I'm not at all surprised it's 'slow' as we enter the last week. 

[sickbeggar]

I'm not sure why we need to free up 12 months wages for the likes of Hourihane etc, when we're £7m in the black on our transfer activity.

FFP surely can't be an issue when we were intending to keep Jack?

Not so much the FFP angle, more having too many players for certain positions. We currently have 10 midfielders/AM's + 3 youth players for midfield places.  Now i'd totally agree we're short there of certain types of players in that area but they may think someone should be going out first.

[paul_e]

10?  Who are you including there? I make it 7...

Doug
Mcginn
Sanson
Ramsey
Houri
Nakamba
Chuk

Not sure who else you've included.

For me i wouldn't be counting Chuk in the numbers because it's still his breakthrough year so 6 plays for 3 positions, i suspect and incoming is based on houri going out.

[sickbeggar]

I'm on about the midfielders as a whole not just centre midfielders so should we be stockpiling that many players for 5 positions? plus the youth players?

[jwarry]

I see Levy has offered Wolves a £5m loan fee for Traore.  I really don’t understand why clubs even bother talking to him. If every club refused to deal with him then maybe he would get his comeuppance but he keeps getting away with it

[N'ZMAV]

we need to sack some of those off and buy some quality

[Stu]

Spuds are only trying to loan Traoré from Wolves, have they seriously got £40m for McKinnie?

[paul_e]

I'm on about the midfielders as a whole not just centre midfielders so should we be stockpiling that many players for 5 positions? plus the youth players?

For a 433 ideally you want 2 for every position, an extra keeper, and a couple of utility players, not including younger players with less than about 15-20 appearances.

[Sexual Ealing]

NBC suggesting that we want the McKennie chap,but perhaps that Spurs want him more.
https://twitter.com/NBCSportsSoccer/status/1430882180046102534

[Stu]

Can't imagine spurs exceeding an asking price, but perhaps they're more likely to sign him.

[chrisw1]

I don’t think it's about fees or wages, just a case of not wanting to have senior players who aren't named in the PL 25 man squad.

But surely that's just tough shit?  Taking Hourihane for example, surely it would be daft to allow worrying about his wages or him not having a squad role stop us from buying a £30m 'vital piece of the jigsaw' midfielder?  It just doesn't stack up to me as being a valid reason not to go out and buy a player if we feel we need one. 

[sickbeggar]

I'm on about the midfielders as a whole not just centre midfielders so should we be stockpiling that many players for 5 positions? plus the youth players?

For a 433 ideally you want 2 for every position, an extra keeper, and a couple of utility players, not including younger players with less than about 15-20 appearances.

I'd agree to an extent, but look at your list. Now if a DM came in, you've got 4 players twiddling their thumbs, plus our 2 kids who need game time. The cover is nice but realistically you'd probably could lose 1 or 2 of them and injuries permitting not feel their loss too badly.

[Sexual Ealing]

Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Tottenham are not considering any swap deal for Weston McKennie with Juventus, again. Paratici signed McKennie one year ago and loves the player - but Spurs would only consider an initial loan move. White circle #THFC

There are also other Premier League clubs in the race for McKennie.
https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1430893632240844802

God, I'm bored today!

[tomd2103]

Delaney apparently gone to Sevilla.
I wonder whether that means McKennie is now the main target?

Shame about Delaney, as I think he would have been perfect for where we are and would have been that 'Andy Townsend' type of midfielder many have thought we have needed for some time.

Obviously we don't know if it was ever really an option, but would have been a very good signing in my opinion.

[chrisw1]

Yes, ideally we would lose 2 or 3 of them, but if not - so what?  Do we stall our development because of c £1.5-2m wages per surplus player when we've just got £100m for Jack? 

I understand the thought process of not over stretching on wages, but fuck it do we want to move on or not?  If that means Hourihane and Nakamba not having a squad number, then so be it.  In the context of things it just seems deminimus.  Am I missing something?

If we don't get anyone then surely it's because we didn't want them, not because we have to pay Horihane £35k a week for another 10 months.