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Offline sickbeggar

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #8385 on: August 20, 2021, 11:16:43 AM »
Wage Bill estimate (per week):

OFF

Jack £125k
Barkley £75k
Heaton £50k
Taylor £40k
Elmo £40k
Samatta £40k
Engels £30k

TOTAL: £400k

ON

Ings £100k
Bailey £80k
Buendia £70k
Young £60k
Tuanzebe £50k

TOTAL: £360K

SAVINGS: £40K with scope for further savings from sales/season loans (Hourihane/Wesley/Davis/Guilbert) though maybe it's inaccurate to include both Barkley and Samatta on the 'Outs' as we would have only been paying some of Samatta's salary last season.

Also, contract renewals/improvements worth bearing in mind (did Targett/Konsa/anyone else sign new deals in the summer?).

We're probably close to last season in total but we'll be shifting out at least a couple of players before the window closes.

Forgot about Samatta. I'd say that wasn't far off. I deliberately underestimated to be on the cautious side but after  the trauma of seeing what we were paying rubbish a few years ago you're probably closer.  I'd say Ings is probably on more than that given he was probably the best paid player at Southampton anyway and his contract situation. Bailey probably less as he was only 19 when he signed for Leverkusen so I reckon his contract there wasn't that impressive. Not sure if Tuenzebe would be on 50k yet.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #8386 on: August 20, 2021, 11:27:20 AM »
With my font size and the way the text formats on my phone, on my 'recent posts' page it reads as Ings on £400k a week. So glad to find out it's probably only a oner.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #8387 on: August 20, 2021, 11:46:02 AM »
So, in the year where FFP doesn't apply, we've decided to come over all Dougish? I appreciate the board say they've got ambition and all but come on. The squad is thin, imbalanced and obviously, painfully lacking in areas. It needs sorting.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #8388 on: August 20, 2021, 11:51:36 AM »
Yeah, it was just a bit of fun for five minutes, swapping number-crunching at work for villa-crunching.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #8389 on: August 20, 2021, 11:52:19 AM »
So, in the year where FFP doesn't apply, we've decided to come over all Dougish? I appreciate the board say they've got ambition and all but come on. The squad is thin, imbalanced and obviously, painfully lacking in areas. It needs sorting.
I do not think it is that easy to sign players (2 of our targets have said no) , we still have 10 days to go.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #8390 on: August 20, 2021, 11:54:23 AM »
We shall, as ever, see. I don't think it's terribly unreasonable to consider our preparations for this season as, how shall we put it, haphazard at best.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #8391 on: August 20, 2021, 11:56:39 AM »
We shall, as ever, see. I don't think it's terribly unreasonable to consider our preparations for this season as, how shall we put it, haphazard at best.
agree, the Grealish saga, 2 coaches fucking off, pre season matches cancelled, prime targets rejected us, still mustn't grumble.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #8392 on: August 20, 2021, 12:16:03 PM »
So, in the year where FFP doesn't apply, we've decided to come over all Dougish? I appreciate the board say they've got ambition and all but come on. The squad is thin, imbalanced and obviously, painfully lacking in areas. It needs sorting.

Come over all Dougish? We've spent over £90m. I'm sure they want more players in, it's just getting them. But yes, the owners are acting like Doug.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #8393 on: August 20, 2021, 12:28:01 PM »
So, in the year where FFP doesn't apply, we've decided to come over all Dougish? I appreciate the board say they've got ambition and all but come on. The squad is thin, imbalanced and obviously, painfully lacking in areas. It needs sorting.

Come over all Dougish? We've spent over £90m. I'm sure they want more players in, it's just getting them. But yes, the owners are acting like Doug.

Net spend, me old mate, net spend is in the minus. Hence the FFP comment. And obviously the 'Dougish' thing was just hyperbole.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #8394 on: August 20, 2021, 12:30:52 PM »
So, in the year where FFP doesn't apply, we've decided to come over all Dougish? I appreciate the board say they've got ambition and all but come on. The squad is thin, imbalanced and obviously, painfully lacking in areas. It needs sorting.

Come over all Dougish? We've spent over £90m. I'm sure they want more players in, it's just getting them. But yes, the owners are acting like Doug.

Net spend, me old mate, net spend is in the minus. Hence the FFP comment. And obviously the 'Dougish' thing was just hyperbole.

It was bollocks. Like I said, I'm sure they want more in. There's absolutey no point whatsoever in buying players just for the sake of it. Let's see how things go over the next couple of weeks.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #8395 on: August 20, 2021, 12:31:04 PM »
We’ve also had £100m plus whatever we got for Engels in.
We did spend a lot the previous 2 summers and the whole club has moved forward immeasurably since we almost went bump but I think this is the first sign that the ambition only goes so far. We might have to get ready for just being a club that sits comfortably in the PL and sells its best players from time to time rather than one that competes with the elite. I’d have taken the former 3 years ago but the insinuation has been for the latter, a bit like Lerners early days. I think (hope) that at least these won’t lose interest at some point though.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #8396 on: August 20, 2021, 12:34:26 PM »
So, in the year where FFP doesn't apply, we've decided to come over all Dougish? I appreciate the board say they've got ambition and all but come on. The squad is thin, imbalanced and obviously, painfully lacking in areas. It needs sorting.

Come over all Dougish? We've spent over £90m. I'm sure they want more players in, it's just getting them. But yes, the owners are acting like Doug.

Net spend, me old mate, net spend is in the minus. Hence the FFP comment. And obviously the 'Dougish' thing was just hyperbole.

It was bollocks. Like I said, I'm sure they want more in. There's absolutey no point whatsoever in buying players just for the sake of it. Let's see how things go over the next couple of weeks.

Goodness me, no need for that. Of course I don't think they're actually like Sir Herbert. I just said 'come over all Dougish' because they're currently at a negative net spend in the summer of no FFP. How much more obviously could it have been put? No need to swear at me pal.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #8397 on: August 20, 2021, 12:38:41 PM »
You have to look at the figures really. We've lost 168m over 2 seasons.. There's about 30m in revenue coming into the next accounts I think so that helps but realistically and sensibly, you don't want a European squad if you have no European games. It would be great to have 5 players on 50k only playing 10 games a season but its not financially viable if you're running a club as a going concern rather than a toy.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #8398 on: August 20, 2021, 12:39:08 PM »
In all fairness Monty, accusing NSWE of employing Doug-enomics deserves criticism. They are everything Doug wasn’t. Ambitious, committed and they stay out of the media.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #8399 on: August 20, 2021, 12:39:39 PM »
Nah, what was bollocks was that £200m to spend rumour that circulated back at the start of June. Utter bollocks that was.

 


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