Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.

[Hookeysmith]

Then pay them 80 mil. These owners are meant to mean business so let's make a proper statement signing

[TelfordVilla]

This is the problem. You cannot throw money at people if you cannot offer champions league. And you will not reach champions league unless you have the kind of player you need to throw money at. Maybe we ha very to just be patient and wait for the talent to develop from within.

[ozzjim]

Then pay them 80 mil. These owners are meant to mean business so let's make a proper statement signing

I wonder if the statement style signing not coming is more Smith than the owners to be honest. Man City bought Robinho in that completely changed the view of them, then lured Tevez there. Chelsea - Gullit changed the face of the era and enticed others. We need that type that can attract others of that ilk until to help push us on.

[Percy McCarthy]

This is the problem. You cannot throw money at people if you cannot offer champions league. And you will not reach champions league unless you have the kind of player you need to throw money at. Maybe we ha very to just be patient and wait for the talent to develop from within.

I disagree. I think you can do it with good recruitment. We can afford to buy virtually any player in the world. We didn’t need to be in the Champions League to get Martinez.

[LeeB]

I reckon Saint-Maximin is a player you could sign who would be brilliant and help close that gap. We'd have to throw a lot at it, but he's fucking electric.

[SoccerHQ]

If true, and it is only, speculation so this is based purely on the hypothesis, then agreed, it would be a desperate move. He's a good age and does have decent defensive stats but it would be a mightily underwhelming signing. Unless there is a want for 2 players and the bulk of the spend will be on a more 10 style player.

Can't see any point in signing another two CMs ozz. As it stands we have McGinn, Nakamba, Luiz, Sanson, Ramsey for the two positions. We'd have to sell two of them to create space (or loan Ramsey out for a year).

Could switch to three in central midfield but then it's even more of a struggle to fit in enough attacking players to be competitive in final third.

Hopefully it's just a random link. Apparently he was close to joining Crystal Palace last week so that seems a more likely destination.

If we are not going to get over-run I think we need 1 holding and 2 8s if you like, but ideally you need 1 like Soucek that adds height and goals. None of our options add goals, and none are strong or aware enough to play on their own as the holding player. I think currently only Luiz and McGinn are really good enough, and neither of them are top 6 at the moment.

Yeah I agree.

DM and then Luiz and McGinn ahead and that's decent enough. Then a front three of Buendia,Watkins-Bailey and that would be top 10.

As exciting and as random as it was the signing of Ings isn't half going to cause some tactical issues and possibly aswell Bailey and Buendia both wanting to play on the right (as does Traore).

Big test for the manager to work it out soon.

[ASHTONVILLA]

This is the problem. You cannot throw money at people if you cannot offer champions league. And you will not reach champions league unless you have the kind of player you need to throw money at. Maybe we ha very to just be patient and wait for the talent to develop from within.

Whilst I mostly agree with this, didn't both Chelsea and Man City do just that. Gullit, Robinho etc


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[KRS]

If we’re going to break the Scab 6 then we have to have strength in depth for rotation and cover injuries to keep us competitive…pretty much exactly the polar opposite of what we were with he that shalt not be named. We can’t get them all on the pitch at the same time, so if Ings/Watkins or Traore/Buendia/Bailey have to sit on the bench for a few games then that’s the way it has to be if we truly want to get to that level, and they have to buy in to that methodology too. I think we’ll see the likes of El Ghazi and Hourihane moved on this window as they will be surplus to requirements, but we do need to strengthen midfield with at least one more quality player.

[SoccerHQ]

Then pay them 80 mil. These owners are meant to mean business so let's make a proper statement signing

I wonder if the statement style signing not coming is more Smith than the owners to be honest. Man City bought Robinho in that completely changed the view of them, then lured Tevez there. Chelsea - Gullit changed the face of the era and enticed others. We need that type that can attract others of that ilk until to help push us on.

TBF for where we are now I think Leon Bailey fits the bill perfectly, exciting wide player with solid stats in major league for CL/europa team and at age where he can improve further.

To lesser degree aswell Ings was signed that made about 12 other prem clubs sit up and take notice so while those two won't sell millions of shirts in Asia or US I think we've done o.k with ambitious signings this summer, now we need to try to fit them into the team successfully.

Could still pull one out of the bag for central midfield aswell in next two weeks. Think a real big one will only come when we're making europa league.

[Percy McCarthy]

I reckon Saint-Maximin is a player you could sign who would be brilliant and help close that gap. We'd have to throw a lot at it, but he's fucking electric.

Brilliant player, but is he another right-winger*? If so, we’ll have more of those than England have right-backs soon.

*I’m only guessing based on the first Barcode goal on Sunday.

[rooboy316]

This is the problem. You cannot throw money at people if you cannot offer champions league. And you will not reach champions league unless you have the kind of player you need to throw money at. Maybe we ha very to just be patient and wait for the talent to develop from within.

I disagree. I think you can do it with good recruitment. We can afford to buy virtually any player in the world. We didn’t need to be in the Champions League to get Martinez.

I agree with you that we can do it with good recruitment. Disagree with you about the second bit. Martinez's stock has risen a lot since we've signed him - I'd argue he wasn't widely considered CL calibre two years ago. And he was on the bench at that mob, so a first team place was enough of a lure without having to offer Europe.

[Scott Nielsen]

Then pay them 80 mil. These owners are meant to mean business so let's make a proper statement signing

Still not enough. Chelsea were quoted 100 mil.

We will know whether we mean business or not in another two weeks.

[Percy McCarthy]

This is the problem. You cannot throw money at people if you cannot offer champions league. And you will not reach champions league unless you have the kind of player you need to throw money at. Maybe we ha very to just be patient and wait for the talent to develop from within.

I disagree. I think you can do it with good recruitment. We can afford to buy virtually any player in the world. We didn’t need to be in the Champions League to get Martinez.

I agree with you that we can do it with good recruitment. Disagree with you about the second bit. Martinez's stock has risen a lot since we've signed him - I'd argue he wasn't widely considered CL calibre two years ago. And he was on the bench at that mob, so a first team place was enough of a lure without having to offer Europe.

The second point is that we can buy players who are good enough to play in the CL without us actually being in it. Martinez proves that point. Not sure how it can be disagreed with really.

[Shrek]

Us villa fans have a real issue, we don’t seem to understand the fact we can’t play all the players together. We’ve forgotten what it’s like to have a proper squad lol

Imo we can’t play Ings and Watkins together, it just won’t work long term without a stronger midfield. Same for Buendia, Bailey, Traore etc.

[sickbeggar]

Really can't see us spending another 80-100m on top of what we have. I'd be delighted to be wrong but whatever the wealth of the owners I don't think they're going to go down that route. Possibly 20-30m max i'd guess if they actually do.