Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.

[KRS]

I don’t get the clammer for Gueye. Admittedly I haven’t followed his career after leaving us, but has his game significantly improved whilst playing for Everton and PSG?

[clash city rocker]

For a couple of years now most fans have said we need a young.  Even middle aged roy Keane type of player. Have we as fans got it wrong ?

[SoccerHQ]

I don’t get the clammer for Gueye. Admittedly I haven’t followed his career after leaving us, but has his game significantly improved whilst playing for Everton and PSG?

Think Everton finished 6th in his first season and he had very good stats as their DM. Then PSG picked him up and he was regular for two seasons.

I doubt he'll want to come back to us but think it would be clever move to get that experienced type on season long loan instead of just spunking another 40m on someone who won't improve us that much.

Just to pose the question....let's say we spend 40m on Ward Prowse. Is that really all we need to make top ? I would say it's very very unlikely and that's the question we have to ask if we're signing players for 40m +, can they get us in top 6 in near future otherwise a couple of short term moves make more sense while likes of Bailey and Bunedia settle in.

[algy]

I don’t get the clammer for Gueye. Admittedly I haven’t followed his career after leaving us, but has his game significantly improved whilst playing for Everton and PSG?

Think Everton finished 6th in his first season and he had very good stats as their DM. Then PSG picked him up and he was regular for two seasons.

I doubt he'll want to come back to us but think it would be clever move to get that experienced type on season long loan instead of just spunking another 40m on someone who won't improve us that much.

Just to pose the question....let's say we spend 40m on Ward Prowse. Is that really all we need to make top ? I would say it's very very unlikely and that's the question we have to ask if we're signing players for 40m +, can they get us in top 6 in near future otherwise a couple of short term moves make more sense while likes of Bailey and Bunedia settle in.

Yeah, I agree. It's going to take more than throwing £40m in the direction of Ward Prowse to get us in to the same bracket as Manc Utd, Manc City, Chelsea, and Liverpool. Which is where the owners want us to be.

I'd like us to be signing a couple of long term players each season. I'd be absolutely fine with supplementing that with a handful of short term signings if they accelerate our rise. Bringing Young & Ings seems to have at least one eye on them helping to develop our younger players & build the same kind of winning mentality that John Terry's signing did. Whilst in playing terms they're short term signings, potentially by helping to develop our other players there is a longer term aspect to it.

As for Gueye. I think he'd do a good job, but am not sure what else he adds in terms of bringing other players on. So signings like him, definitely, but I'm not sure if he in particular is the right one. Could be, I just don't know anything about that side to him and suspect it's a large factor in who we're recruiting in that agree bracket.

[Dave]

From what I recall Gueye is not the big unit defensive midfielder we need. I’m thinking can we not (optimistic I know) find the next Keane or Viera.

Roy Keane was 5ft 10. Joshua Kimmich is probably the best defensive midfielder in the world at the moment and is the same height. My six year is about the same height as N'Golo Kante.

It's not 1980, the size of the midfielder really doesn't matter. We wouldn't be buying him to cover the front post at corners.

Gueye would be fine for our current needs.

[Ian.]

From what I recall Gueye is not the big unit defensive midfielder we need. I’m thinking can we not (optimistic I know) find the next Keane or Viera.

Roy Keane was 5ft 10. Joshua Kimmich is probably the best defensive midfielder in the world at the moment and is the same height. My six year is about the same height as N'Golo Kante.

It's not 1980, the size of the midfielder really doesn't matter. We wouldn't be buying him to cover the front post at corners.

Gueye would be fine for our current needs.

One of my favourite holding centre midfielders was Mascherano, he was fantastic at breaking up play and protecting the defence and was probably only 5’7” or so.

[Clark W Griswold]

You can still be 5 foot 10 and a unit. From what I recall not many got the better of Keane in a 50/50. What I’m saying is we need someone like that who can dominate games from midfield ideally from a starting point of sitting in front of the back four. I realise Keane and Viera could do whatever was asked of them including running all of the way through the midfield and scoring or assisting but Gueye is not as strong or anywhere near as dominant as those two, and that is primarily what we need. If we were to sign Gueye in addition then sound, as he is still a good player and would be useful.

[Ian.]

I’d snap a player up who’s good enough for PSG over Nakamba right away.

[PaulWinch again]

I don’t get the clammer for Gueye. Admittedly I haven’t followed his career after leaving us, but has his game significantly improved whilst playing for Everton and PSG?

He’s been very good.

[Tuscans]

Kalvin Phillips, if we could of pulled that one off when we were linked a few seasons ago, would be perfect for our needs right now.

[Brazilian Villain]

You can still be 5 foot 10 and a unit.

Agreed, I once met Roycie Gracie who's just over 6 foot so 3-4 inches shorter than me but it has like hugging concrete. Wouldn't like to have run into him at full pelt. FWIW, as Dave's highlighted, Kante's only 5' 6" and seems to do a decent job as DM.

[Sexual Ealing]

I'm 5 foot 10" and built like a brick wendyhouse. Sign me up.

[Scott Nielsen]

Just to pose the question....let's say we spend 40m on Ward Prowse. Is that really all we need to make top ? I would say it's very very unlikely and that's the question we have to ask if we're signing players for 40m +, can they get us in top 6 in near future otherwise a couple of short term moves make more sense while likes of Bailey and Bunedia settle in.

No. We need to spend double that so we get JWP and a quality DM. Then we might credibly start to look at a top 6-placing.
That would still only have us at a 70m transfer surplus which, frankly, is less than I had expected/hoped for this summer.

[mike]

From what I recall Gueye is not the big unit defensive midfielder we need. I’m thinking can we not (optimistic I know) find the next Keane or Viera.

Roy Keane was 5ft 10.

I think he still is.

[ozzjim]

Why are there murmurings about Will Hughes on twatter. He's really not the answer.