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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #5835 on: July 31, 2021, 12:45:26 PM »
"The player has all the power" is such a cop out. Harry Kane still plays for Tottenham. Doug Ellis could have kept Dwight Yorke, he chose to take the coward's way out. I thought those days were behind us. It seems that they aren't. We can expect the same amount of "success" in the next two decades as we have had since selling Yorke if this is the way we are going to act whenever one of our players is approached by a club above us in the pecking order.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #5836 on: July 31, 2021, 12:46:32 PM »
I’m as bereft as I was the day after Brexit day, The only transfer that comes close to being as gutting as this one was the departure of Andy Gray. PFA player of the year and young player of the year in the same season. We recovered and improved, we can do so again. He on the other hand didn’t do much.

He would have missed the Wolves v Forest League Cup Final too for a suspension had Wolves not had an FA Cup semi-final replayed the Wednesday before.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #5837 on: July 31, 2021, 12:48:25 PM »
Andy Gray won the League, the FA Cup, the League Cup and the Cup Winner’s Cup after leaving us. That’s hardly shabby.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #5838 on: July 31, 2021, 12:50:46 PM »
Leicester kept Vardy.
Didn't keep Kante, Mahrez Maguire or Chillwell though.

Yes but kept the most important. If Grealish goes we will have sold ours.

They only kept him because Vardy chose to stay. Leicester accepted Arsenal's offer in 2016, and Vardy chose not to go.

Grealish can still do that if he wants to. But that's a comparison between Grealish and Vardy, not Villa and Leicester.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #5839 on: July 31, 2021, 12:54:15 PM »
"The player has all the power" is such a cop out. Harry Kane still plays for Tottenham. Doug Ellis could have kept Dwight Yorke, he chose to take the coward's way out. I thought those days were behind us. It seems that they aren't. We can expect the same amount of "success" in the next two decades as we have had since selling Yorke if this is the way we are going to act whenever one of our players is approached by a club above us in the pecking order.

Sorry, but this is wrong. Gregory said he decided to sell Yorke because of how he downed tools at Everton. Remember that, maybe you are too young but he didn't try a leg he sulked? The same season a Forest player went on strike! The player had all the power then and this is more so the case now. How many unhappy players are kept? Kane may still move, the window hasn't shut. This was engineered by the agent not the club.
« Last Edit: July 31, 2021, 12:59:32 PM by Villan82 »

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #5840 on: July 31, 2021, 01:03:07 PM »
We could have kept Yorke. Tottenham are keeping Kane. Grealish has four years left on his contract. If he goes, we have bottled it. "The player has all the power" is a blatant cop out which is demonstrably untrue as shown by the other high profile transfer target this summer.

If Villa turn down a bid for Jack Grealish, he will be a Villa player. It really is that simple.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #5841 on: July 31, 2021, 01:06:06 PM »
We could have kept Yorke. Tottenham are keeping Kane. Grealish has four years left on his contract. If he goes, we have bottled it. "The player has all the power" is a blatant cop out which is demonstrably untrue as shown by the other high profile transfer target this summer.

If Villa turn down a bid for Jack Grealish, he will be a Villa player. It really is that simple.

Ok. If you believe that.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #5842 on: July 31, 2021, 01:06:06 PM »
Gutting and disappointing if he went, we know that. He's world class and a Villa boy.
But if (big if I know) we took say £120 million and went and bought say Bailey, Abraham, Ward-Prowse, Cantwell (or similar players) with it, plus the kids and what we currently have, we'd be a lot stronger squad-wise, and not one injury away from a dip in form. 
It's a massive blow "IF" he goes, but there's always a bigger picture.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #5843 on: July 31, 2021, 01:06:58 PM »
We could have kept Yorke. Tottenham are keeping Kane. Grealish has four years left on his contract. If he goes, we have bottled it. "The player has all the power" is a blatant cop out which is demonstrably untrue as shown by the other high profile transfer target this summer.

If Villa turn down a bid for Jack Grealish, he will be a Villa player. It really is that simple.

Ok. If you believe that.

It’s literally true as a matter of logic that if we turn down the bid he will be a Villa player.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #5844 on: July 31, 2021, 01:11:31 PM »
We could have kept Yorke. Tottenham are keeping Kane. Grealish has four years left on his contract. If he goes, we have bottled it. "The player has all the power" is a blatant cop out which is demonstrably untrue as shown by the other high profile transfer target this summer.

If Villa turn down a bid for Jack Grealish, he will be a Villa player. It really is that simple.

Ok. If you believe that.

You don't believe Harry Kane wants to leave Tottenham?

When you make sweeping statements such as "players have all the power", you only need one exception to disprove the argument. Harry Kane disproves your argument. You don't really have anywhere to go after that.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #5845 on: July 31, 2021, 01:14:56 PM »
We could have kept Yorke. Tottenham are keeping Kane. Grealish has four years left on his contract. If he goes, we have bottled it. "The player has all the power" is a blatant cop out which is demonstrably untrue as shown by the other high profile transfer target this summer.

If Villa turn down a bid for Jack Grealish, he will be a Villa player. It really is that simple.

Ok. If you believe that.

It’s literally true as a matter of logic that if we turn down the bid he will be a Villa player.



And it's not like he can chuck his toys out the pram. Any player that does that is ruining any potential future move. The way to deal with it is re Barry

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #5846 on: July 31, 2021, 01:23:47 PM »
So I think there seemingly a real possibility Leo Bailey to be signed and he's someone who plays across the front gives us the pace , mobility and flexibility. He like Buendia will upgrade the attack for tempo and movement on and off the ball. Both these players move off the ball far more than Grealish who wants the ball to carry but at his own tempo.
Fingers crossed he's one being brought in.
Plenty of reports are saying this will be the case
Bailey has played left wing and also as a right-winger and can frequently switch positions, allowing him to cut in from the right.

Encouraging also Bailey is also one of the fastest players in the Bundesliga. And is a natural dribbler
I read that He Has quick feet and acceleration help him beat a man in 1-v-1/s very easily, which coupled with his impressive close control makes him a good attacking option Another advantage of his incredible pace is difficult to track when he decides to make smart runs in and around the box and ultimately be on the receiving end to a through-ball. Bailey thus proves to be a threat both in possession of the ball and off of it and provides for effective combination play.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #5847 on: July 31, 2021, 01:24:56 PM »
I’d be very pleased with Bailey.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #5848 on: July 31, 2021, 01:34:53 PM »
Yeah, mon Bailey, cheer us up a bit.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #5849 on: July 31, 2021, 01:37:53 PM »
Bailey and a truly creative AM and however shite grealish *potentially* leaving is, it could result in a much more balanced side.

 


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