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Author Topic: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.  (Read 1334223 times)

Offline brontebilly

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #5160 on: July 22, 2021, 07:42:30 PM »
I actually feel Keinan could have a higher ceiling than Wesley.  Other than his finishing he just looks a much better player to me.  That's not to say I think a huge amout of Wes' finishing - he's had a few decent close range shots but his strikes generally look very powder puff.

But I agree, Keinans time has probably passed and unless Wes does sonething brilliant in pre-season, I think his has too.

Davis can be very good at bringing others into the play. It's just he has little or no threat in the opposition box. Maybe with some exceptional coaching he could improve his movement and instincts around the box to get those scruffy goals. He has been a decent sub for us at times, not in a scoring sense, but that critical game at West Ham for example. Early on in his career under Bruce he did very well for us for a spell bringing the likes of Hourihane and Grealish into games. Would be delighted to see him kick on elsewhere on loan.

Wesley's goals for us have been of that scruffy variety looking back but we were playing effectively with 10 men for a lot of the games he played. For a player with his physique that hold up play is surely fixable but after such a long time out with injury he needs a loan spell and regular football. That tackle on him was an utter disgrace, I feel the club should have made a lot more noise about it at the time. 

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #5161 on: July 22, 2021, 08:02:34 PM »
You don't need to be a 20-goal a season striker to make a very good living from this game.  I still think Davis will have a solid career, maybe even back in the premier league, but I don't think he'll ever develop into a prolific striker (would love to be proven wrong though!).

He's still not had many actual minutes in the premier league for us (266 last season, not even three full games across the whole season, most of those minutes as late a cameo, with 1 goal and 1 assist to show for it), and the way things are going with our recruitment he's not going to get the minutes he needs with us.

His all-round game is pretty good, and I think he'd be a real handful in the Championship, for Stoke, or someone else.  It wouldn't surprise me to see him drop down a level and get 10-ish goals and prove himself really popular with another club's fans for putting himself about and the effort he puts in.

If he goes, he'll certainly go with my best wishes.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #5162 on: July 22, 2021, 08:07:59 PM »
As long as we get decent cover for the striker roles, I would wish Davis and Wesley well in their endeavours to find regular football. Right from the word go, I felt that Wesley didn’t offer too much close control or staggering pace etc. He physically looks the part but would be surprised if he makes it in the English game. Good luck to them both though.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #5163 on: July 22, 2021, 08:45:38 PM »
Davis just isn’t very good at goal scoring. Even if his all round game isn’t bad.

Ive had enough of non-goal-scoring-strikers at the Villa over the years.


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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #5164 on: July 22, 2021, 09:29:21 PM »
As long as we get decent cover for the striker roles, I would wish Davis and Wesley well in their endeavours to find regular football. Right from the word go, I felt that Wesley didn’t offer too much close control or staggering pace etc. He physically looks the part but would be surprised if he makes it in the English game. Good luck to them both though.

He wasn't pulling up any trees in Belgium, and that was before a serious injury. To be fair most of the Suso signings came good, pity the most expensive one was the biggest dud.

Ollie is an excellent player, and I like Davis. Still think we need one more, and if we loan one out it should be Wesley not Davis.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #5165 on: July 22, 2021, 09:31:53 PM »
Neither of them are good enough for where we want to be.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #5166 on: July 22, 2021, 09:39:01 PM »
Whatever the statement that signing Luiz would be is probably a statement we should avoid making.

The kind of statement that could be used against you in court

Offline markeeeebeeee2005

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #5167 on: July 22, 2021, 10:06:55 PM »
After watching a YouTube compilation of Emi’s highlights I even wonder if he could be a better player than Jack? 

Perfectly two footed, amazing passing range and loads of end product. He has Jack’s ability of making every other player look like they’re running in treacle, but seems even faster.

Am I getting too excited?

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #5168 on: July 22, 2021, 10:14:38 PM »
After watching a YouTube compilation of Emi’s highlights I even wonder if he could be a better player than Jack? 

Perfectly two footed, amazing passing range and loads of end product. He has Jack’s ability of making every other player look like they’re running in treacle, but seems even faster.

Am I getting too excited?

I think you need to apologise to the site and feel jolly bad about that statement.

Offline markeeeebeeee2005

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #5169 on: July 22, 2021, 10:21:33 PM »
Sorry everyone, particularly Jack. Brum > Argentina - obvs.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #5170 on: July 22, 2021, 10:26:03 PM »
After watching a YouTube compilation of Emi’s highlights I even wonder if he could be a better player than Jack? 

Perfectly two footed, amazing passing range and loads of end product. He has Jack’s ability of making every other player look like they’re running in treacle, but seems even faster.

Am I getting too excited?

I think you need to apologise to the site and feel jolly bad about that statement.

Nobody is and will ever be as good as Jack.

But yeah he looks a very exciting player, and am getting very excited about this season.

Offline Border villan

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #5171 on: July 22, 2021, 10:52:08 PM »
After less than a minute Kienan, all on his own, went down injured. It needed considerable persuasion from the physios etc to convince him to bravely soldier on. Has his fragility been indulged too long?

Offline rob_bridge

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #5172 on: July 22, 2021, 11:04:17 PM »
David Luiz must be worth a goal a game or a sending off.

Luiz as footballer - technically very good.

The problem is he has no footballing brain and therefore finding out where to play him is impossible. He is 34 and that is too late to find out.

The game v Germany he brought it upon himself to play some sort of Rush Goalkeeper which isn't a real position in the professional game.

Offline Bryan

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #5173 on: July 22, 2021, 11:25:23 PM »
David Luiz?!? A terrible defender who costs a fortune and seems to end up with managers being sacked in his wake.

Additionally I think it’s been about 4 years since he last scored a free kick so we can rule that attribute out.

We need someone who can take the core nets and the free kicks in a delivery sense over a guy that fancies shooting from 30+ yards every time. JWP fits that bill. As does Maddison (although I think we’ve no chance of him)

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #5174 on: July 22, 2021, 11:36:51 PM »

 


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