Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.

[Toronto Villa]

We've just got ourselves back to being one of the meanest defences in the PL and then someone advocates the signing of the Grand Marshal of the Clown Defending Association.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

so has the alvarez thing gone away then ?

Good question. I was under the impression that this was the most likely one to happen.

As I mentioned last week..

He played today (Alvarez, not Vickery) for River Plate in their last 16 Copa Libertadores, first leg game. River were held at home 1-1 by Argentinos Juniors. Second leg is next Thursday, if River win I'd be surprised if they sell him as they're likely to play Boca in the quarter final with the 2nd leg around the 19th of August. The semi final is around the 21st of September, long after the window closes.

It may explain why it's gone very quiet or it could be just a bullshit rumour. If it is true we're interested, next Thursday could be decisive or failing that immediately after the 19th August.

UPDATE: River Plate won 2-0 so are through to the quarter finals. Alverez came off the bench on 82 minutes. Only difference from above is Boca Juniors lost on penalties (and caused a riot). 19th of August remains the next deadline to look out for, 2nd leg River Plate vs Atletico Mineiro.

If I was a betting man I'd probably pencil in Alverez to Villa in the January window. Assuming we're interested, obviously.

[Mister E]

Gary Cahill on a 12 month deal as backup for Konsa worth a look?

Deffo if he's still up to it.

Would make sense, but would probably prefer a young player with potential who can be brought on gradually.

To be honest I don't know what is stopping us looking at defenders in the Konsa bracket. Surely a 1st team championship defender would see coming to us as a step-up even if it meant he was 3rd choice.  What you'd lose in squad status would be made up by the potential of being an injury away from being a premiership 1st teamer. And the money of course.. Not knowing the budget or the targets its hard to judge what market we're dealing in for a reserve

How did Revan look last night in the Walsall game?

[Virgil Caine]

According to BBC Smith-Rowe has signed a new long term contract with Arsenal

[frank black]

According to BBC Smith-Rowe has signed a new long term contract with Arsenal

As expected, he got a bumper new deal and the number 10 shirt. His agent has really earned his percentage

[pauliewalnuts]

David Luiz as a statement signing.

Signing David Luiz would certainly mean making a statement.

"We're fucking nuts". That statement.

[Mister E]

David Luiz? Jesus Christmas.

Well we all have varying opinions I was putting up reasoning after seeing Cahill suggested.
Just feel Luiz ticks a lot of boxes posters here have been requesting .

Most of the attributes and achievements you mentioned, F-V, are some while back in his career. Luiz deteriorated badly in his time at the Arse, and his pastoral benefits can be administered equally as well as him by Cashley Y.
I'd favour neither Cahill nor Luiz: we have Terry to provide the deep experience. We should be looking at someone young enough to continue developing and good enough to put Mings and Konsa under a bit of pressure to perform.
Regarding F-V's comments about squad rotation, I share those concerns: last season, Deano did have some rotation options but didn't seem keen to use them; claiming that players don't get tired if continually played. Greater flexibility with a larger and more competitive squad has to be a part of next season, IMHO.

[SaddVillan]

so has the alvarez thing gone away then ?

Good question. I was under the impression that this was the most likely one to happen.

As I mentioned last week..

He played today (Alvarez, not Vickery) for River Plate in their last 16 Copa Libertadores, first leg game. River were held at home 1-1 by Argentinos Juniors. Second leg is next Thursday, if River win I'd be surprised if they sell him as they're likely to play Boca in the quarter final with the 2nd leg around the 19th of August. The semi final is around the 21st of September, long after the window closes.

It may explain why it's gone very quiet or it could be just a bullshit rumour. If it is true we're interested, next Thursday could be decisive or failing that immediately after the 19th August.

UPDATE: River Plate won 2-0 so are through to the quarter finals. Alverez came off the bench on 82 minutes. Only difference from above is Boca Juniors lost on penalties (and caused a riot). 19th of August remains the next deadline to look out for, 2nd leg River Plate vs Atletico Mineiro.

If I was a betting man I'd probably pencil in Alverez to Villa in the January window. Assuming we're interested, obviously.

Sign him with a loan back clause. He can then join  us in January and be integrated into the squad in the second half of the season?

[CT]

We've just got ourselves back to being one of the meanest defences in the PL and then someone advocates the signing of the Grand Marshal of the Clown Defending Association.

We may as re-sign Mic*h or Jole*n. They’re hall of famers in the CDA.

[Border villan]

David Luiz must be worth a goal a game or a sending off.

[ozzjim]

Gary Cahill on a 12 month deal as backup for Konsa worth a look?

The solution to the centre back , free kicks and defensive midfield people all banging on about  all rolled into one.
David Luiz as a statement signing.
He's a very Dean Smith type player.

And with Luiz you would have the versatility , quality ,experience and a great off field person who is a committed Christian.
Culturally as a player some here in UK misunderstood him but I think Dean Smith and JT could do worse than bringing him in on a free because at the end of the day he's a quality footballer and one of the best direct free kick takers I've ever seen in recent times. Certainly the best centre back one!

In what way in this whole entire universe is David Luiz a Dean Smith type player?! In any case, he's 34, way past his best, and if he's not going to get into the Arsenal side he sure as hell isn't getting into ours.

Well he's a ball playing centre back and can step out into midfield . Also he plays a defensive midfield role with an attitude to keep hold of possession and plays excellent passing.  If we are looking to control games he can play pivot or he can when we see out games drop into defence as insurance. I don't see why he couldn't be considered.
Fits remit of premier league experience
Listed the reasons. Why he's a great option.
And anyhow people reference Cahill who is 35!

Also to add further reasons as well as versatility and free kick ability he can help Wesley recovery by nurturing him with his mother tounge. A native speaker around Wesley who is older and wiser with gold moral values would do wonders for Wesley
And of course he's been an experienced winner at club level so has the right mentality to pass on experience to existing defenders and Douglas too in regards to mother tounge

Wesley has an issue with his morality?

I get the leaders in the squad bit, but David Luiz is a go awful player that has played off reputation rather than ability for years. He has also had his fair share of immoral moments on the pitch rolling about as if hit in the face when clearly he wasn't etc. I am not having a bar of the idea hes a good player, hes been incredibly fortunate to be in sides that have won things, often in spite of him being mostly useless.

[AGRIPPA]

John Percy reporting Stoke are after Keinan on loan...nothing agreed so far but talks have been held

[DrGonzo]

YES!

[Axl Rose]

A committed Christian is exactly what we need, to be fair.

Luiz is an absolute wanker.

I'd rather sign David Duchovny

[Rudy Can't Fail]

so has the alvarez thing gone away then ?

Good question. I was under the impression that this was the most likely one to happen.

As I mentioned last week..

He played today (Alvarez, not Vickery) for River Plate in their last 16 Copa Libertadores, first leg game. River were held at home 1-1 by Argentinos Juniors. Second leg is next Thursday, if River win I'd be surprised if they sell him as they're likely to play Boca in the quarter final with the 2nd leg around the 19th of August. The semi final is around the 21st of September, long after the window closes.

It may explain why it's gone very quiet or it could be just a bullshit rumour. If it is true we're interested, next Thursday could be decisive or failing that immediately after the 19th August.

UPDATE: River Plate won 2-0 so are through to the quarter finals. Alverez came off the bench on 82 minutes. Only difference from above is Boca Juniors lost on penalties (and caused a riot). 19th of August remains the next deadline to look out for, 2nd leg River Plate vs Atletico Mineiro.

If I was a betting man I'd probably pencil in Alverez to Villa in the January window. Assuming we're interested, obviously.

Sign him with a loan back clause. He can then join  us in January and be integrated into the squad in the second half of the season?

What if he gets injured between now and January? Ideally we can have an agreement in place to sign him on the 1st of January. Obviously, there's still time to sign him next month before the window closes but I can't see River Plate wanting to sell him while they're still in the South American version of the Champions League.