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Offline Percy McCarthy

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #4185 on: July 05, 2021, 05:06:37 PM »
Is it just me who doesn't entirely get what is meaty by an 8, a 10 or a 6?!

 

8 - box to box
6 - defensive
10 - attacking

pretty much any way, the numbers are just short hand.

I think it's just football getting on the vintage vibe.  Libero no longer sounds hip even though it superseded Sweeper.  You can't be caught saying Outside or Inside Right, or even Left or Right Half it's now an 8 or a 10 or even a 6. 7 is a left winger but in these times it's a Left winger and a Left half.  In Jack's case both those plus he can drift.  9.  Everyone knows what a 9 is. 11 should be a Right Winger but there's not been much discussion on the 11 yet.

You’ve got your 7 & 11 on the wrong sides there mate.

Classic 7 & 11 - Beckham and Morley in that order.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #4186 on: July 05, 2021, 05:14:57 PM »
Is it just me who doesn't entirely get what is meaty by an 8, a 10 or a 6?!

 

8 - box to box
6 - defensive
10 - attacking

pretty much any way, the numbers are just short hand.

I think it's just football getting on the vintage vibe.  Libero no longer sounds hip even though it superseded Sweeper.  You can't be caught saying Outside or Inside Right, or even Left or Right Half it's now an 8 or a 10 or even a 6. 7 is a left winger but in these times it's a Left winger and a Left half.  In Jack's case both those plus he can drift.  9.  Everyone knows what a 9 is. 11 should be a Right Winger but there's not been much discussion on the 11 yet.

You’ve got your 7 & 11 on the wrong sides there mate.

Classic 7 & 11 - Beckham and Morley in that order.

I knew I'd fuck it up.  I wasn't being entirely serious in any case.  Just a bit fascinated by football speak these days reverting back to what numbers meant back in the day.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #4187 on: July 05, 2021, 05:27:36 PM »
As I said I think it's just a shorthand thing; DM, CM and AM can convey the same thing and I tend to use both or even terms like enforcer and big nasty bastard.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #4188 on: July 05, 2021, 05:29:20 PM »
Not sure where it started creeping into the language of football fans - it probably moved it on from the Football Manager descriptions of DCM, ACM, CM.

6 - defensive midfielder
8 - goal scoring midfielder
10 - playmaker/creative midfielder

And what, then, is a number 7?

A 7 and 11 would be more likely to be wide attacking midfielders - AML/AMR aka wingers!

 .  .  .  with the added advantage that the 7 - 11 stays open late should you run out of milk.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #4189 on: July 05, 2021, 05:30:16 PM »
I hope we sign a BNB

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #4190 on: July 05, 2021, 06:01:21 PM »
Not sure where it started creeping into the language of football fans - it probably moved it on from the Football Manager descriptions of DCM, ACM, CM.

6 - defensive midfielder
8 - goal scoring midfielder
10 - playmaker/creative midfielder

And what, then, is a number 7?

A 7 and 11 would be more likely to be wide attacking midfielders - AML/AMR aka wingers!

Ahhh, the old days 🤠.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #4191 on: July 05, 2021, 06:03:25 PM »
In my era these were the numbers/positions...

2      5       6     3
            4
7          8        11
           10
            9

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #4192 on: July 05, 2021, 06:05:18 PM »
      1

2  4  5  3

7  6  8  11

    9  10

You can swap around 8 and 10 if you like.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #4193 on: July 05, 2021, 06:10:19 PM »
Is it just me who doesn't entirely get what is meaty by an 8, a 10 or a 6?!

I think our very own Meatball McGinn can play all three  8)

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #4194 on: July 05, 2021, 06:56:16 PM »
      1

2  4  5  3

7  6  8  11

    9  10

You can swap around 8 and 10 if you like.

Yes, that was it. The right hand side came first.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #4195 on: July 05, 2021, 06:58:04 PM »
Demsgaard may be another one to consider in the number 10 role if ESR doesn't happen.

Not entirely sure we need a 10 when McGinn, Sanson, Grealish, Buendia and a number of the young players can all play there. 

I would like to see McGinn start the season there with Sanson as back up and see how it goes.  If it transpires that we need better than those two, then hopefully we will be in a position next year where we only need one addition and could go big.
I have a feeling that we're going for it this season. FFP is relaxed, hardly anyone can spend so we're not getting stuck in bidding wars, ... it jus feels, much like last summer, that we've an unprecedented chance to make up a huge amount of ground & perhaps overtake sides like Arsenal, who realistically it's been a long, long time since we could compete with. And I'm not sure that chance will still exist in 12-24 months time.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #4196 on: July 05, 2021, 06:59:35 PM »
6 runs about in front of the defence
10 runs about behind the attack
8 runs about between the two

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #4197 on: July 05, 2021, 07:00:15 PM »
      1

2  4  5  3

7  6  8  11

    9  10

You can swap around 8 and 10 if you like.

Yes, that was it. The right hand side came first.

In the classic Villa teams that are the template for this numerical system as those teams are the bona-fide, unchallenged, indisputably correct, final word on how the game should be played, 8 was the support striker (Little, Shaw), while 10 was a midfielder (Cropley, Sid).

Unless you want to disagree with Ron Saunders of course.
« Last Edit: July 05, 2021, 07:04:35 PM by Percy McCarthy »

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #4198 on: July 05, 2021, 07:24:18 PM »
      1

2  4  5  3

7  6  8  11

    9  10

You can swap around 8 and 10 if you like.

Yes, that was it. The right hand side came first.

In the classic Villa teams that are the template for this numerical system as those teams are the bona-fide, unchallenged, indisputably correct, final word on how the game should be played, 8 was the support striker (Little, Shaw), while 10 was a midfielder (Cropley, Sid).

Unless you want to disagree with Ron Saunders of course.

I agree ………along with cdb, V82, PM and of course RS

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #4199 on: July 05, 2021, 07:31:22 PM »
      1

2  4  5  3

7  6  8  11

    9  10

You can swap around 8 and 10 if you like.

Yes, that was it. The right hand side came first.

In the classic Villa teams that are the template for this numerical system as those teams are the bona-fide, unchallenged, indisputably correct, final word on how the game should be played, 8 was the support striker (Little, Shaw), while 10 was a midfielder (Cropley, Sid).

Unless you want to disagree with Ron Saunders of course.

I agree ………along with cdb, V82, PM and of course RS
Me2

 


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