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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #4110 on: July 05, 2021, 12:13:23 AM »
It’s been two weeks since the opening bid of £25m so not that long ago. The weird thing about it is that it’s all very public. Neither side has admitted it, but more importantly Arsenal haven’t rebuffed it. Which given the reported offers being made they could have done at any time. We don’t normally do this but clearly Arsenal or the players agent is not making this go away. I don’t think we’d do it to play up his contract which could have been offered and signed at any time you’d have thought. If this does happen it would be a super signing made all the sweeter that it pisses off those entitled wankers no end.

We were first linked to him before we signed Buendia. I thought at the time it was just a story planted in the press to speed Norwich along (same as that Uruguay playmaker we were briefly linked to) but clearly there's more to it and we feel there's a good chance of getting him in eventually if we keep chipping away with bids.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #4111 on: July 05, 2021, 07:25:03 AM »
I just can't see it happening. Brilliant signing if it does, but I just don't see it, and hope we have backup options lined up.

Still think a multi-functional forward that can press in a similar style to Watkins would be very useful. Losing Ollie for any length of time would seriously hamper us.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #4112 on: July 05, 2021, 08:00:41 AM »
Midfield options are:

8: McGinn, Sanson
6: Luiz, Marv
10: Jack, Emi, Chuck, Ramsey

Given Emi and Jack will likely play wide, there is definitely room for another 10. I wouldn't mind upgrading that quality in 6, as Dougie is still young and won't be playing till September you'd assume.
That said, it's more to control possession and territory rather than shield the back 4 where we need to improve rather than stopping goals, as we were decent defensively.
With this array of options, I think bringing in JWP would be my top priority because it would obviate the need for an out-and-out Stopper in midfield and make best use of the talent in the list above.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #4113 on: July 05, 2021, 09:04:58 AM »
i to think there's more in the ESR saga than just a speculative bid

although i cant see Arsenal selling unless they have a replacement ie Maddison otherwise there fans would go crazy
the biggest worry for Arsenal is he only has 1 year left on his contract, i think that's what makes the whole thing more intriguing

they could sell it to there fans saying he would leave for nothing next season and they couldn't take that risk
but i still think they would need a heavyweight signing to compensate the fans

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #4114 on: July 05, 2021, 09:31:51 AM »
He has two years left on his contract. Still a valid point as clubs don’t want players to get to a situation where they only have one year remaining.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #4115 on: July 05, 2021, 09:36:13 AM »
I think they haven't got a pot to piss in, need to rebuild, and can't get their deals done because they're trying to stagger payments like they're buying from Kays catalogue.

They're also shit scared of losing players running down their contracts as they've been stung with that a few times. We know this, and are standing there like Harry Enfield's 'loadsamoney' character waving dosh at them, waiting for them to crack.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #4116 on: July 05, 2021, 09:39:04 AM »
I thought all transfer fees were paid in installments?

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #4117 on: July 05, 2021, 09:40:24 AM »
By next week we will have offered another £5k at what point do Arsenal say he is yours?

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #4118 on: July 05, 2021, 09:42:23 AM »
By next week we will have offered another £5k at what point do Arsenal say he is yours?

I don't know, but I don't imagine another five thousand will swing it.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #4119 on: July 05, 2021, 09:44:19 AM »
ESR - it may be that with Arsenal trying to sign Odegaard & Maddison he feels he'll be down the pecking order, where we're showing him so much faith and a first choice 10 role.  Joining us would give him a shot at earning a place in the w/c squad whereas if he is a bit part player for Arsenal he'd have no chance.  He'll know that playing with Jack & Buendia either side of him he'd have a massive opportunity to shine.

Maybe wishful thinking, but that could be the dream we're trying to sell him.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #4120 on: July 05, 2021, 09:44:25 AM »
I thought all transfer fees were paid in installments?
Yes but the terms vary. You can get them financed subject to the credit standing of the buying club.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #4121 on: July 05, 2021, 09:46:05 AM »
By next week we will have offered another £5k at what point do Arsenal say he is yours?

I don't know, but I don't imagine another five thousand will swing it.

£10k at least, and we'll throw in a club Montego from Evans Halshaw.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #4122 on: July 05, 2021, 09:47:53 AM »
Pushing hard for ESR according to Preece.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #4123 on: July 05, 2021, 09:51:01 AM »
Pushing hard for ESR according to Preece.

He still hasn't signed this contract that was supposed to be verbally agreed, has he? Are they waiting for a new printer cartridge or something?

Whatever comes about from it, we've done a great job of exposing Arsenal as a bit two-bob.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #4124 on: July 05, 2021, 10:00:45 AM »
Had a Liverpool supporter tell me yesterday ‘with a high degree of confidence’ (guess work) that John McGinn is ‘definitely’ going to Liverpool. I said to him that all of our best players are tied up long term and no- ones going anywhere unless Villa say so. He wasn’t too keen on that.

 


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