Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.

[mr underhill]

We're not signing this fella at anything like the money Arsenal would want, even if they agreed to let him go. Word is he's agreed a new contract anyway.

[OzVilla]

I've never thought we would sign him.  It's been more of a fishing expedition to establish we are ambitious with our transfer targets and wind up a few Tarquins.

[Smithy]

Worst case scenario with Smith Rowe is that Arsenal, a potential rival, have to offer him more money than they were intending to, so have less money to spend elsewhere. Can't really see the downside.

Yep.

We mean business, and now everyone can see it. Arsenal would be absolutely stupid or really desperate to let Smith-Rowe go, the fanbase would never forgive them.

Yep.  Even if the bid is unsuccessful (which I still expect it to be) it is a statement to the likes of Arsenal that we have ambitions to overtake them.  I think it is a clever move whatever the outcome as just sews a seed that we are club with real ambition.

I don’t want to beat a dead horse on this, but is it though? If, say, Newcastle were to bid £50m for Grealish, is that a statement of intent? I’m just not getting this argument sorry. I actually more think the opposite, it might suggest we’re still small time, bidding for players and not getting them. I’m in the minority so I’ll shut up now!

I don't think it would be the same, because Newcastle have Mike Ashley and barely a pot to piss in. A bid by them WOULD look like a stunt. The media are only now - just - coming to realise that our owners are the real deal, have as much money as anyone in world football (barring possibly Man City and PSG's owners), and are intent on spending whatever is necessary to get to the top.  THAT is the important missing bit of context.

Sure, lots of fans and media will think nothing of us bidding for ESR. I happen to think we won't get get him because Arsenal won't want him to go. However, more and more fans of other clubs (at least that I speak to), seem to realise we are club that is now going places.  One Liverpool fan I watched the England game with last night had recently found out how much our owners were worth and started moaning we are going to become another Chelsea and Man City (I don't think we will, not the way they did it, but it was interesting that this is the creeping perception amongst opposition fans).

We will keep buying good players, and each time we do, other fans and journalists will continue taking us a little bit more seriously.

Put it this way, any fan of a club outside the champions league places who understands our owners, our financial strength, and our plans, would be genuinely worried if we came in for one of their players.

[Hookeysmith]

I've never thought we would sign him.  It's been more of a fishing expedition to establish we are ambitious with our transfer targets and wind up a few Tarquins.

IMHO it is to smoke out Southampton for JWP

[Steve67]

According to the meaning evil, the font of all knowledge, because clubs know we have an extra £100 million to spend they are trying to fleece us.  Of course if that was the case we would just let the transfer window run down until they get desperate enough to sell because we know they haven’t got any money. What a pity Jim White no longer works for sky. I can just imagine 10:59:59 him bellowing out on transfer deadline day: ‘now just hold on a minute news from Villa Park’.

[enigma]

I''m not sure 32m is classed below the level required to buy him. He's played 20 games in his career. Arsenal  may value him higher but that's totally based on potential rather than reality.

I'd say it's well below. It's all about what he's worth to them. They'd be crucified if they let one of their brightest talents go for that amount. If they let it be known they're willing to sell they'd have plenty of offers far above that amount and they know it.

[markeeeebeeee2005]

Who from?

[Mister E]

I''m not sure 32m is classed below the level required to buy him. He's played 20 games in his career. Arsenal  may value him higher but that's totally based on potential rather than reality.

I'd say it's well below. It's all about what he's worth to them. They'd be crucified if they let one of their brightest talents go for that amount. If they let it be known they're willing to sell they'd have plenty of offers far above that amount and they know it.

Grauniad reporting that the Arse have a Portuguese left back and Belgian midfielder joining them; deals agreed.

[oldtimernow]

According to the meaning evil, the font of all knowledge, because clubs know we have an extra £100 million to spend they are trying to fleece us.  Of course if that was the case we would just let the transfer window run down until they get desperate enough to sell because we know they haven’t got any money. What a pity Jim White no longer works for sky. I can just imagine 10:59:59 him bellowing out on transfer deadline day: ‘now just hold on a minute news from Villa Park’.

They've just bought a new fax machine!!!....

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I''m not sure 32m is classed below the level required to buy him. He's played 20 games in his career. Arsenal  may value him higher but that's totally based on potential rather than reality.

I'd say it's well below. It's all about what he's worth to them. They'd be crucified if they let one of their brightest talents go for that amount. If they let it be known they're willing to sell they'd have plenty of offers far above that amount and they know it.

Grauniad reporting that the Arse have a Portuguese left back and Belgian midfielder joining them; deals agreed.

Nuno Tavares, an unwanted squad filler from Benfica for 8m euros + 2m add-ons. Plenty here are offering to drive him to the Emirates.

[Toronto Villa]

The Tarquins are furious as the last thing needed with their limited budget is another LB. TS spouting bollocks that they have £200m to spend.

[Demitri_C]

#announcetammy

Someone had to do it 🥵

[andyh]

NOT impressed with the Winks murmurings.
Let’s hope that’s all they are.

[Behind Bluenose Lines]

#announcetammy

Someone had to do it 🥵

🙏🙏🙏

As an aside I wonder if Nuno has got Daniel Levy to give him some money to spend, and so try and keep Haary Kane at Spurs?
Bad news for us re Jack if Kane stays.

[Toronto Villa]

I don’t believe the Winks rumours but I’m also not going to judge any signings based exclusively on their last club. If we’d signed Lingard in January most would have seen that as a poor decision. He was superb in a different system with a different manager. We’ve pretty much seen every player who we’ve paid for in the summer do well. January is a crap shoot generally so for it will be a wait and see for whoever we bring in.