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Author Topic: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.  (Read 1334663 times)

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3810 on: June 29, 2021, 08:39:19 AM »
I guess whether we follow up on Alvarez and Sarr will show whether we are solely looking at the British Market.

Smith Rowe - there has to be others on that list. Perreira maybe?

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3811 on: June 29, 2021, 08:50:25 AM »
Well none of those are going to cost what it will take to get Smith Rowe. is he really worth £35m plus?

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3812 on: June 29, 2021, 09:06:25 AM »
Well none of those are going to cost what it will take to get Smith Rowe. is he really worth £35m plus?

You have to say no on his career so far. We're buying potential frankly.


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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3813 on: June 29, 2021, 09:51:22 AM »
Well none of those are going to cost what it will take to get Smith Rowe. is he really worth £35m plus?
Arguably it's not a huge amount different from when we paid north of £9m for Ashley Young.

I think Arsenal will end up folding on him - we just need to keep the pressure up and have a decent bid on the table.  I'd be hugely surprised if we'd have made a second bid without having an inkling that Smith Rowe was keen on the move, and I'd guess if Smith Rowe knows we're in for him and wants the move then it's pretty simple for him too - keep refusing their contract offers.  They ain't going to risk keeping him against his will, and have him on the last year of his contract next summer.  Not if there's a decent enough offer on the table.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3814 on: June 29, 2021, 10:00:52 AM »
Don't think inflation has rocketed so much in 14 years but I take your point.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3815 on: June 29, 2021, 11:01:11 AM »
Don't think inflation has rocketed so much in 14 years but I take your point.

Football inflation seems to be directly linked to the latest TV deals. Each time they go up transfer fees increase accordingly.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3816 on: June 29, 2021, 11:22:18 AM »
Well none of those are going to cost what it will take to get Smith Rowe. is he really worth £35m plus?
Arguably it's not a huge amount different from when we paid north of £9m for Ashley Young.

I think Arsenal will end up folding on him - we just need to keep the pressure up and have a decent bid on the table.  I'd be hugely surprised if we'd have made a second bid without having an inkling that Smith Rowe was keen on the move, and I'd guess if Smith Rowe knows we're in for him and wants the move then it's pretty simple for him too - keep refusing their contract offers.  They ain't going to risk keeping him against his will, and have him on the last year of his contract next summer.  Not if there's a decent enough offer on the table.

I hope this is true, but I’ve got a horrible feeling on this one that we have been totally played by his agent, used just to secure a better deal. Hope I’m wrong.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3817 on: June 29, 2021, 12:04:08 PM »
Well none of those are going to cost what it will take to get Smith Rowe. is he really worth £35m plus?
Arguably it's not a huge amount different from when we paid north of £9m for Ashley Young.

I think Arsenal will end up folding on him - we just need to keep the pressure up and have a decent bid on the table.  I'd be hugely surprised if we'd have made a second bid without having an inkling that Smith Rowe was keen on the move, and I'd guess if Smith Rowe knows we're in for him and wants the move then it's pretty simple for him too - keep refusing their contract offers.  They ain't going to risk keeping him against his will, and have him on the last year of his contract next summer.  Not if there's a decent enough offer on the table.

I hope this is true, but I’ve got a horrible feeling on this one that we have been totally played by his agent, used just to secure a better deal. Hope I’m wrong.

Even if we are, so what? We're making serious overtures about one of the brightest talents in the country and not being laughed at. That's a statement of intent in itself.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3818 on: June 29, 2021, 12:06:02 PM »
Not the end of the World if it means Arsenal have to pay him a fortune in wages.

Sure we have other options if we don't get him.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3819 on: June 29, 2021, 12:07:11 PM »

Even if we are, so what? We're making serious overtures about one of the brightest talents in the country and not being laughed at. That's a statement of intent in itself.

I think we're serious and I wouldn't be at all surprised if we end up with him. Arsenal might make a lot of noise, but when it comes to paying for White from Brighton, the prospect of recouping a big chunk of that is not going to be sniffed at by those skint pricks.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3820 on: June 29, 2021, 12:12:20 PM »
Yep, I agree with Dave W, that we are even bidding for him seriously shows that we mean business if it doesn't happen I still think we'll get a couple of signings on that sort of level.



Even if we are, so what? We're making serious overtures about one of the brightest talents in the country and not being laughed at. That's a statement of intent in itself.

I think we're serious and I wouldn't be at all surprised if we end up with him. Arsenal might make a lot of noise, but when it comes to paying for White from Brighton, the prospect of recouping a big chunk of that is not going to be sniffed at by those skint pricks.


Also this, they are supposedly after White and Locatelli, for me I'd snatch Locatelli from under their noses, then buy ESR to help them pay for White and then get Alvarez in. I'd be pretty happy with our summer if that was our lot, especially with no one else leaving. Might be a touch light at centre half though if Smith doesn't fancy Revan and/or Bridge as cover.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3821 on: June 29, 2021, 12:15:59 PM »
Worst case scenario with Smith Rowe is that Arsenal, a potential rival, have to offer him more money than they were intending to, so have less money to spend elsewhere. Can't really see the downside.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3822 on: June 29, 2021, 12:17:48 PM »
Yep, I agree with Dave W, that we are even bidding for him seriously shows that we mean business if it doesn't happen I still think we'll get a couple of signings on that sort of level.



Even if we are, so what? We're making serious overtures about one of the brightest talents in the country and not being laughed at. That's a statement of intent in itself.

I think we're serious and I wouldn't be at all surprised if we end up with him. Arsenal might make a lot of noise, but when it comes to paying for White from Brighton, the prospect of recouping a big chunk of that is not going to be sniffed at by those skint pricks.


Also this, they are supposedly after White and Locatelli, for me I'd snatch Locatelli from under their noses, then buy ESR to help them pay for White and then get Alvarez in. I'd be pretty happy with our summer if that was our lot, especially with no one else leaving. Might be a touch light at centre half though if Smith doesn't fancy Revan and/or Bridge as cover.

With ESR, Locatelli and Alvarez, I'd be more than 'pretty happy' I'd be ecstatic! Especially when Jack stays.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3823 on: June 29, 2021, 12:21:11 PM »
Worst case scenario with Smith Rowe is that Arsenal, a potential rival, have to offer him more money than they were intending to, so have less money to spend elsewhere. Can't really see the downside.

Yep.

We mean business, and now everyone can see it. Arsenal would be absolutely stupid or really desperate to let Smith-Rowe go, the fanbase would never forgive them.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3824 on: June 29, 2021, 12:24:00 PM »
Well none of those are going to cost what it will take to get Smith Rowe. is he really worth £35m plus?
Arguably it's not a huge amount different from when we paid north of £9m for Ashley Young.

I think Arsenal will end up folding on him - we just need to keep the pressure up and have a decent bid on the table.  I'd be hugely surprised if we'd have made a second bid without having an inkling that Smith Rowe was keen on the move, and I'd guess if Smith Rowe knows we're in for him and wants the move then it's pretty simple for him too - keep refusing their contract offers.  They ain't going to risk keeping him against his will, and have him on the last year of his contract next summer.  Not if there's a decent enough offer on the table.

The lad's an Arsenal fan so he may be reluctant to move but his preferred position is as a 10, a position we need to fill. Add to that, if we assume Jack will leave in 12 months time, Smith Rowe with a full season under his belt at Villa Park could easily step in on the left.

 


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