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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3690 on: June 27, 2021, 03:42:48 PM »
I thought he was more a winger but may be wrong.

Edit: to JJ-AV/Risso
« Last Edit: June 27, 2021, 03:46:26 PM by cdbullyweefan »

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3691 on: June 27, 2021, 03:43:22 PM »
I also think we might already have the player that can cover up front or play left/right of Ollie in Traore. He has played as a striker before and has all the skill in the world.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3692 on: June 27, 2021, 03:44:18 PM »
Tammy is an England International. I can see arguments for signing others but don't think many clubs would be turning their nose up at someone with his goal record.

Number one priority for me, if we keep Grealish, is someone to replace Barkley. We were brilliant when he played well. I'm not, for one second, saying we should buy or even re-sign him, but we should be looking for someone who can link up with Grealish like he did in the 7-2, but who won't be so inconsistent. Preferably someone with a better engine and less worrying injury record. Maybe Alvarez would fit the bill?

Isn't Buendia the sort of Barkley replacement. Certainly looking at his highlights video from last season, he seemed to play a lot of good stuff through the middle of the pitch, rather than the wings.

Think he started on the right but often wandered inside. I think he would be comfortable in either position.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3693 on: June 27, 2021, 03:44:37 PM »
Traore will be more on the bench this season. Brilliant on his day but obviously if we want to finish somewhere in top 8 we can't be having regular final third players phoning it in for 3 games out of 5 as tended to happen post January.

Traore and AEG will be decent sub options after an hour so along with a decent CF on the bench hopefully DS won't take so long to introduce players in second halves if we're struggling to make an impact as in previous seasons.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3694 on: June 27, 2021, 03:50:51 PM »
At 40 mill i don't think Tammy is low risk.
He’s played in the side before, with largely the same back room staff and a chunk of the same players. We can be as near to certain as it’s ever possible to be that he’ll settle in quickly and get along with everyone. He can definitely score goals at Premier League level. He’s as low risk as it’s possible to be.

That just leaves us with the fee.  I think if we paid about the same as we did for Ollie Watkins, we’ll have got him at a decent price.

A lot of folk on here seem to think we have to qualify for Europe/the champions league to keep Jack.  I don’t know whether that’s true or not, but if it is then we are going to have to be signing the sort of players we’d be signing if we were a top 4 side, which would mean having more than one striker you were 100% confident will do the business. I happen to think Wes will come good, but we can’t take the chance.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3695 on: June 27, 2021, 04:08:38 PM »
I never saw Tammy play much for us in the championship as airings were limited.
I do remember a number of posters on here and other mates questioning whether or not he was what we needed.
What we do need is some support and or options up front
If the Management team think it is Tammy so be it, they have done a pretty good job so far

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3696 on: June 27, 2021, 04:14:46 PM »
Arsenal having to sell before the can buy. 3 players potentially on their way out and they cannot afford to pay up front what Brighton want for White.

Take our money for ESR you skint rats.

I honestly think we'll sign Smith Rowe in the end.


Pretty clear Arsenal are lowballing him with contract offers so can see another Martinez situation here.

He's supposedly still on £20k/week. Buendia is meant to be on about £85k/week and Jack on £125k/week (and potentially on the rise) with Barkley likely on the same last season with Smith-Rowe replacing him. Signing a £30m+ player, we could easily offer him £85-125k/week.

Will he always be looked down upon for never having been a big signing? He seemed to play a lesser role when Arsenal brought in Odegaard and it wouldn't surprise me if they wanted a big signing as first choice in that position to replace Odegaard with Smith-Rowe playing the understudy role.

With us, he would instantly be seen as a key player and paid appropriately. It wouldn't surprise me if he's seriously thinking about coming.

Their results really picked up when he broke through into their first 11 in December last season. Incredibly I think they were only second to Man. City in how many points they picked up from Boxing day which shows how bad they were for first three months and Smith Rowe was big part of that.

I can see it being a bit like Martinez. Arteta was thinking of making him number one but then Leno would've been harder to sell with the wages he was on so pressure from board meant Arteta had to cash in.

Could be same with Smith Rowe. Arteta rates him but Arsenal in a mess financially so when you can't sell Pepe given the insane fee they paid for him and cashing in on Bukayo Saka would cause a riot there then ESR could be the odd one out, not totally guarenteed a starting spot and we're apparently coming in with 30m + bid. So with Arsenal having no european income for first time in 25 years that becomes very tempting for their bean counters.

Given we've been linked to him for 4-5 weeks now we're clearly getting some encouragement from his agent.

After all this it will probably be announced in next hour he's signed new 5 year deal but I dunno I feel confident on this like Martinez last summer who was linked for a few weeks while we waited to see if he played for Arsenal in their first game. He didn't and we signed him a few days later.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3697 on: June 27, 2021, 04:48:41 PM »
Tammy is an England International. I can see arguments for signing others but don't think many clubs would be turning their nose up at someone with his goal record.
Number one priority for me, if we keep Grealish, is someone to replace Barkley. We were brilliant when he played well. I'm not, for one second, saying we should buy or even re-sign him, but we should be looking for someone who can link up with Grealish like he did in the 7-2, but who won't be so inconsistent. Preferably someone with a better engine and less worrying injury record. Maybe Alvarez would fit the bill?
#10 could currently be filled by Grealish, Buendia, McGinn, Chuky, Sanson and Ramsey Major.
Now, add a CMF in the Kante mould and cover for Watkins and we'd be flying.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3698 on: June 27, 2021, 04:50:11 PM »
Tammy is an England International. I can see arguments for signing others but don't think many clubs would be turning their nose up at someone with his goal record.

You say that but there doesn't appear to be many links with him moving other than to us and a big part of that is clearly because he played here before. If people aren't going to turn their nose up at him why aren't half the league showing an interest?

I suspect it's because most clubs and fans think it's a lot of money for what we'd be getting.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3699 on: June 27, 2021, 04:50:54 PM »
Most of the league can't afford him, or, at least, can't afford to sign him and their other targets.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3700 on: June 27, 2021, 05:03:48 PM »
people saying no to Tammy Abraham must be thinking Davis or Wesley will come good.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3701 on: June 27, 2021, 05:08:04 PM »
I must admit, I have hopes still with Wes and Davis and have not given up, however the prospect of Tammy instead is much more appealing.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3702 on: June 27, 2021, 05:19:07 PM »
Abraham would mean having an option of playing Ollie wider on the left should Jack be injured/sold. Also would allow Grealish to possibly have a more roaming role. It’d be a good move imho as if (big if I accept) Grealish does go, all prices go up £10mill to us as clubs know we have even more disposable.

Smith played Ollie left later in games last season a little as personnel changed in the games and he did play as a winger early in his career. From what little I could see from Sky-view Watkins seemed to understand his defensive duties.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3703 on: June 27, 2021, 05:31:27 PM »
Pretty sure he would consider it beneath him, but Tammy should go to Brighton.  A team that creates loads but cannot score.  He’d be first pick every week and, if he’s good, will be a back in the England squad and have a top six side flirting with him in no time. 

Being our reserve striker, or shuffling our attack to fit him in, doesn’t seem a good option for either party.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3704 on: June 27, 2021, 05:36:04 PM »
if we're going to be this europe chasing top 6 side people want us to be then we need two forwards.

 


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