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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3676 on: June 27, 2021, 01:56:17 PM »
Where you sign players from is irrelevant, how well you've scouted them is what matters.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3677 on: June 27, 2021, 02:43:07 PM »
Like a few others here, if I was picking a kind of forward to have as backup / competition/ rotation with Oliie I would be looking for someone that could also play wide. Tammy would not be the first name I would pick for that.

Last season I raised an eyebrow when we splashed out on Cash, as I really didn't see right back as a priority with Guillbert and Elmo both quite good.

I think with Tammy we might be seeing what we saw with Cash. A player is available that will strengthen us, albeit in a position we already have a decent first teamer. I don't think it means we are not trying to fill the priority positions (cover for left back, cover for centre back, and a hard tackling midfielder). I just think we are taking good players when we can, and see strong competition as a nice problem to have.

Tammy is a good player, having multiple good players competing for places is where teams that win trophies regularly are. Else you have to hope you don't ever get an injury to your core set and everyone plays well all season (Leicester when they won). Last season we were heading for top 4 until Jack got injured. But if Oliie had got injured instead it would have the same effect - no one on the bench of the same standard. Next season if we have Buendia and Tammy and both Jack and Ollie get sidelined we would still have a decent team to put out.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3678 on: June 27, 2021, 03:11:38 PM »
Arsenal having to sell before the can buy. 3 players potentially on their way out and they cannot afford to pay up front what Brighton want for White.

Take our money for ESR you skint rats.

I honestly think we'll sign Smith Rowe in the end.


Pretty clear Arsenal are lowballing him with contract offers so can see another Martinez situation here.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3679 on: June 27, 2021, 03:14:12 PM »
Is Dean Smith the kind of Manager to pull in top names? Just a question as genuinely interested what people think.

No. He also won't get us promoted, won't keep us up and he's taken us as far as he can.

Dean is still learning in the Prem, but I expect at some point, players will show an admiring glance in our direction and want to join us because we seem to be building from the bottom up and are capable of playing some great football.    Anyone who knocks him, or dares to question or hypothesise will be shot down.  However, if we wanted a really top player to come to Villa, is Dean Smith a name that players will want to join at the moment?  Does this prevent us from pushing the boat out at the moment.  It's a simple question which doesn't really call for sarcasm.   

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3680 on: June 27, 2021, 03:16:00 PM »
I doubt players care too much who the manager is, unless it's someone they're worked with before. If Man United appoint Paul Lambert as manager and Pep Guardiola ends up at Norwich, would-be superstars still aren't going to choose Norwich ahead of Man U.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3681 on: June 27, 2021, 03:16:30 PM »
I agree the players we have signed from the Championship have done well and taken us to 11th in the premier league, to take the next step so we are challenging regularly for a European position in the league we will need better quality than top Championship players.



Leicester have the right mix when you look at it. That core of players who've been there years, Schmeichel, Vardy, Albrighton etc then a couple who've stepped up superbly from championship, Maddison, James Justin, odd home grown player like Harvey Barnes aswell who they loaned out for two seasons.

That's the template we're looking at. However Leicester also signed Tielemans from Monaco, Periera from Porto who've just won euro 2016 and Soyuncu was pretty rated in Bundesliga when they got him so think that's a difference, they have a pull to attact good players in 20-25 from good european leagues which is still a bit of a struggle for us.

Hopefully Sanson will hit the ground running next season which will give DS a bit more confidence with dealing with those types as he quickly lost faith with Engels and Gulibert after a few indifferent performances.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3682 on: June 27, 2021, 03:19:12 PM »
Is Dean Smith the kind of Manager to pull in top names? Just a question as genuinely interested what people think.

No. He also won't get us promoted, won't keep us up and he's taken us as far as he can.

Dean is still learning in the Prem, but I expect at some point, players will show an admiring glance in our direction and want to join us because we seem to be building from the bottom up and are capable of playing some great football.    Anyone who knocks him, or dares to question or hypothesise will be shot down.  However, if we wanted a really top player to come to Villa, is Dean Smith a name that players will want to join at the moment?  Does this prevent us from pushing the boat out at the moment.  It's a simple question which doesn't really call for sarcasm.   

It's not sarcasm, it's pointing out that this is another thing we hear he can't do, on top of the others he apparently can't do until he does them.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3683 on: June 27, 2021, 03:24:31 PM »
Is Dean Smith the kind of Manager to pull in top names? Just a question as genuinely interested what people think.

No. He also won't get us promoted, won't keep us up and he's taken us as far as he can.

Dean is still learning in the Prem, but I expect at some point, players will show an admiring glance in our direction and want to join us because we seem to be building from the bottom up and are capable of playing some great football.    Anyone who knocks him, or dares to question or hypothesise will be shot down.  However, if we wanted a really top player to come to Villa, is Dean Smith a name that players will want to join at the moment?  Does this prevent us from pushing the boat out at the moment.  It's a simple question which doesn't really call for sarcasm.   

It's not sarcasm, it's pointing out that this is another thing we hear he can't do, on top of the others he apparently can't do until he does them.

This is one of the reasons I'd like us to sign JWP.  An England international, would send out a really good message.  I don't think signing Tammy Abraham would quite do the same. 

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3684 on: June 27, 2021, 03:28:18 PM »
Tammy is an England International. I can see arguments for signing others but don't think many clubs would be turning their nose up at someone with his goal record.

Number one priority for me, if we keep Grealish, is someone to replace Barkley. We were brilliant when he played well. I'm not, for one second, saying we should buy or even re-sign him, but we should be looking for someone who can link up with Grealish like he did in the 7-2, but who won't be so inconsistent. Preferably someone with a better engine and less worrying injury record. Maybe Alvarez would fit the bill?

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3685 on: June 27, 2021, 03:33:04 PM »
I doubt players care too much who the manager is, unless it's someone they're worked with before. If Man United appoint Paul Lambert as manager and Pep Guardiola ends up at Norwich, would-be superstars still aren't going to choose Norwich ahead of Man U.

Yup, more or less that. There probably isn't a single player in Europe who would want join us because they want to play for Dean Smith.

There probably aren't any who would refuse to join and cite Dean Smith being manager as the reason either.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3686 on: June 27, 2021, 03:37:08 PM »
Watkins - Abraham - Buendia
Jack
McGinn - Luiz

Looks a pretty good front 6 to me

Signing one of Jack's best mates too, and playing him behind a £100m forward line would signal some intent

Lots of fluidity, can easily switch to a 4-2-2-2 as well

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3687 on: June 27, 2021, 03:38:10 PM »
Tammy is an England International. I can see arguments for signing others but don't think many clubs would be turning their nose up at someone with his goal record.

Number one priority for me, if we keep Grealish, is someone to replace Barkley. We were brilliant when he played well. I'm not, for one second, saying we should buy or even re-sign him, but we should be looking for someone who can link up with Grealish like he did in the 7-2, but who won't be so inconsistent. Preferably someone with a better engine and less worrying injury record. Maybe Alvarez would fit the bill?

Isn't Buendia the sort of Barkley replacement. Certainly looking at his highlights video from last season, he seemed to play a lot of good stuff through the middle of the pitch, rather than the wings.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3688 on: June 27, 2021, 03:41:30 PM »
I'm he's given the freedom to roam, but he plays almost exclusively from the right according to WhoScored.

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Re: Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.
« Reply #3689 on: June 27, 2021, 03:42:44 PM »
Arsenal having to sell before the can buy. 3 players potentially on their way out and they cannot afford to pay up front what Brighton want for White.

Take our money for ESR you skint rats.

I honestly think we'll sign Smith Rowe in the end.


Pretty clear Arsenal are lowballing him with contract offers so can see another Martinez situation here.

He's supposedly still on £20k/week. Buendia is meant to be on about £85k/week and Jack on £125k/week (and potentially on the rise) with Barkley likely on the same last season with Smith-Rowe replacing him. Signing a £30m+ player, we could easily offer him £85-125k/week.

Will he always be looked down upon for never having been a big signing? He seemed to play a lesser role when Arsenal brought in Odegaard and it wouldn't surprise me if they wanted a big signing as first choice in that position to replace Odegaard with Smith-Rowe playing the understudy role.

With us, he would instantly be seen as a key player and paid appropriately. It wouldn't surprise me if he's seriously thinking about coming.

 


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